Kids beating me that ran 1/2 as much as i did over the summer

For environmental reasons, the biggest thing we can do is to not eat meat. Not for like health reasons though, meat isnt necessarily bad for your health.

meat is healthy its those carbs that arent

Kidswhobeatme wrote:

For environmental reasons, the biggest thing we can do is to not eat meat. Not for like health reasons though, meat isnt necessarily bad for your health.

Trying to grow enough vegetables to feed everyone isn't good for the environment either. You would be better off eliminating plastic from your life and soap and gasoline etc. before you worry about cows destroying the environment.

True ^

although this does not even deserve a response i will respondyou have to feed the cows as anyone with basic biology knowledge will know it takes a lot of energy to get calories of cow for people to eat. ya veggies would take a lot to feed everyone but guess what i eat a lot of things that are not veggies, aka grains and whats fed to cows? Grains... a lot of them. http://www.nationalgeographic.com/foodfeatures/meat/check it out.

Buffalo Bill Chodey wrote:

Kidswhobeatme wrote:

For environmental reasons, the biggest thing we can do is to not eat meat. Not for like health reasons though, meat isnt necessarily bad for your health.

Trying to grow enough vegetables to feed everyone isn't good for the environment either. You would be better off eliminating plastic from your life and soap and gasoline etc. before you worry about cows destroying the environment.

Kidswhobeatme wrote:

although this does not even deserve a response i will respond

you have to feed the cows as anyone with basic biology knowledge will know it takes a lot of energy to get calories of cow for people to eat. ya veggies would take a lot to feed everyone but guess what i eat a lot of things that are not veggies, aka grains and whats fed to cows? Grains... a lot of them.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/foodfeatures/meat/

check it out.

Buffalo Bill Chodey wrote:

Trying to grow enough vegetables to feed everyone isn't good for the environment either. You would be better off eliminating plastic from your life and soap and gasoline etc. before you worry about cows destroying the environment.

That's why beef should be grassfed. Do you eat a lot of grass?

Buffalo Bill Chodey wrote:

Kidswhobeatme wrote:

although this does not even deserve a response i will respond

you have to feed the cows as anyone with basic biology knowledge will know it takes a lot of energy to get calories of cow for people to eat. ya veggies would take a lot to feed everyone but guess what i eat a lot of things that are not veggies, aka grains and whats fed to cows? Grains... a lot of them.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/foodfeatures/meat/

check it out.

That's why beef should be grassfed. Do you eat a lot of grass?

Lol beef isnt grassfed like 99 percent isnt, and i know you are one of those people that eats beef bc in some scenario it could be correct to do so but the fact is 99 percent of the time it isnt, when you are at somones bbq or at a fast food place or any restaurant you are eating factory farmed beef.

Don't care if/why you want to be vegetarian. I do know that there are VERY few in HS that can pull it off. Is one of your parents vegetarian? Do they run?

If you don't have someone else in your house who has practiced what you are trying to do FOR SEVERAL YEARS, my guess is that you have started to become anemic.

The reason you only see it in races and not in practice is that you are doing about 80% of what you need to so on your earlier mileage/intensity you were barely, ok. As you try to improve past 17:45, you can't just increase your training, EVERYTHING you do has to be able to support the new stress.

You need to eat better, now. Do that any way you want but start right away or things will get worse. AND see your doctor so you have test numbers to help determine when you are eating correctly for your level of training.

Kidswhobeatme wrote:

Buffalo Bill Chodey wrote:

That's why beef should be grassfed. Do you eat a lot of grass?

Lol beef isnt grassfed like 99 percent isnt, and i know you are one of those people that eats beef bc in some scenario it could be correct to do so but the fact is 99 percent of the time it isnt, when you are at somones bbq or at a fast food place or any restaurant you are eating factory farmed beef.

I said it should be and I have my own farm and raise my own beef so there.

meateater wrote:

meat is healthy its those carbs that arent

Listen to this guy. You need to cut all grains and eat red meat.

And do HIIT. If you want to race fast, you need to train fast.

Long slow distance run makes you a long slow distant runner.

So i gave it some time to see if my race times would improve and they have, i ran 17:50 yesterday which is 5 seconds off my 5k PR... which is not what im wanting to run right now especially with how much training ive done... based on this (19 min to 5k to 18:10 to 17:50) do you all still think im anemic or the gains are just coming slowly? thanks.

I always got beat early in the season. Then as the other guys plateaud I just kept getting better because I had the base. When I tapered and they burnt out, the gaps got even bigger.

In a few short weeks they'll be eating your dust, don't you worry. The money's in the bank.

I haven't read the whole thread but I've been in your shoes years ago so wanted to give my 2 cents. A few things I've learned over the years:

1) Leave the training log at the start line. It doesn't matter what you've done in training, once the gun goes off, nothing else matter. People who have run less mileage will sometimes be able to beat those who run more mileage. It's about finding the optimal program for you.

2) slow down. Your easy runs should be way slowe. Even 9 mins per mile or slower. 7 mins per mile is way too fast given your prs. Work up to being able to easily handle 1 hour per day and a longer run on the weekend of slower stuff with a workout or two. My guess is that at 7 mins per mile you're not able to effectively workout or recover

3) read and learn about physiology. Learn about nutrition and optimal training. There are a ton of great books out there on training. Become a student of the sport. (Daniels, pfitzinger, tinman, hadd, mcmillan, lore of running etc )

4) be patient. Sometimes it takes months or years for training to take effect. If you commit to your training, enjoy it and learn about the sport, you will do better and have fun doing it.

5) embrace the process. Younger runners are often focused on the end result. But focus on the process and enjoyment of running. If you do this, the results will flow out of your passion for the sport.

Good luck! (Forgive me if this is repetitive, I didn't read the whole thread)

This^ All great advice, especially #1.

The late season races are the ones that are important. THAT'S your goal, not some Sept. invitational.

Bummer