Name the last truly great song that was written. Are we out of new ideas?

hmmmmm.... wrote:

krispy kremlin_._._ wrote:

Anything by Adele.

Are they great songs, or is she just a great singer? I have no doubt about the latter but I don't know if her songwriting is on par with, say, Dylan.

Hi dumb dumb! The thread is not whose songwriting is on par with Dylan(almost nobody), it's about great songs.

A song is more than just the words; it's how they are then embedded in the music, which instruments are used, and how the artist(singer and musicians) deliver the entire "package".

Dylan certainly had the wordsmithing part -- one of the best. But, his voice was awful. In fact, we probably have the extremes here - Adele being a 9/10 voice and Dylan being a .5/1(I might be being too kind here). But, his "bad" singing voice is part of what made his songs distinctive and memorable.

Bullet the Blue Sky wrote:

I disagree 100%. There is a ton of great music being written, all you have to do is open your ears and listen. You probably won't find it on mainstream radio, though.

Damn straight. "Great music" won't be found among Radio's Top 40 or most streaming apps. I feel fortunate to live in a town that has a bunch of nearby college FM stations --with DJs that inform & educate. As a result, music discovery is a very sustainable thing for me.

Papa Don't Preach 1986

Very moving and timeless.

Animal Collective released Painting With album earlier this year. Not their best but still very good. Golden Gal, Bagels in Kiev, and Vertical are great songs off the album

And Radiohead released A Moon Shaped Pool which was amazing. Give the whole album a listen and see what you think. Highlights are Decks Dark, Identikit, Ful Stop, and True Love Waits.

You lost all credibility when you mentioned Radiohead. You should have quit while you were ahead.

thejeff wrote:

Today's music, while not total crap, is deaigned more for entertainment than to be truly meaningful.

Discus.

Agreed. The last great song to come out was "Tomorrow", from the movie Annie.

Wtfunny wrote:

Half of the tunes on Southeastern, by Jason Isbell.

There was some incredible music written in the 60's and 70's. And the 80's. And, of course, the 90's.

There was also tons of pop bubblegum nonsense as well, what you might call "total crap designed more for entertainment than to be truly meaningful". That part hasn't changed.

thejeff wrote:

Today's music, while not total crap, is deaigned more for entertainment than to be truly meaningful.

Discus.

Jason Isbell's as talented as anyone I've ever heard. His former band, Drive-by Truckers, is IMO the best band of the last 30 years.

spotterofdumbdumb wrote:

hmmmmm.... wrote:

Are they great songs, or is she just a great singer? I have no doubt about the latter but I don't know if her songwriting is on par with, say, Dylan.

Hi dumb dumb! The thread is not whose songwriting is on par with Dylan(almost nobody), it's about great songs.

A song is more than just the words; it's how they are then embedded in the music, which instruments are used, and how the artist(singer and musicians) deliver the entire "package".

Dylan certainly had the wordsmithing part -- one of the best. But, his voice was awful. In fact, we probably have the extremes here - Adele being a 9/10 voice and Dylan being a .5/1(I might be being too kind here). But, his "bad" singing voice is part of what made his songs distinctive and memorable.

Hi idiot! A great song is not the same as a great performance. Thanks for sharing and go crawl back to your hole now.

It's well known that the last great song to ever come out was Never Surrender by Corey Hart.

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spotterofidiot wrote:

spotterofdumbdumb wrote:

Hi dumb dumb! The thread is not whose songwriting is on par with Dylan(almost nobody), it's about great songs.

A song is more than just the words; it's how they are then embedded in the music, which instruments are used, and how the artist(singer and musicians) deliver the entire "package".

Dylan certainly had the wordsmithing part -- one of the best. But, his voice was awful. In fact, we probably have the extremes here - Adele being a 9/10 voice and Dylan being a .5/1(I might be being too kind here). But, his "bad" singing voice is part of what made his songs distinctive and memorable.

Hi idiot! A great song is not the same as a great performance. Thanks for sharing and go crawl back to your hole now.

^ Have you just turned 13 years old?

Plenty of stuff by the Shins. I'd put Phantom Limb and New Slang at the top of the list.

Track 1 side 1 of Beethoven's 5th symphony.

Wtfunny wrote:

Half of the tunes on Southeastern, by Jason Isbell.

Agreed. Jason Isbell is one of the greatest songwriters out there. He is today's equivalent of Johnny Cash.

For modern pop songs I like "I took a Pill in Ibiza"

Most people have heard the dance version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foE1mO2yM04

But here is the original, which is better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41GZVVcxQps

And he took that video idea from Bob Dylan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGxjIBEZvx0

bigtool05 wrote:

Jason Isbell's as talented as anyone I've ever heard. His former band, Drive-by Truckers, is IMO the best band of the last 30 years.

I have never heard of Isbell or the Drive-by Truckers. This is an indictment of me, not him or them. But if you think they are the best band in 30 years I would like to know what song(s)/cd you suggest I start with?

Star wrote:

For modern pop songs I like "I took a Pill in Ibiza"

Most people have heard the dance version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foE1mO2yM04

But here is the original, which is better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41GZVVcxQps

Never heard the original. Much more interesting, you're right. Thanks for the link.

"Tribute" Tenacious D

"Ordinary People" John Legend

"Everlong" Foo Fighters

"The Scientist" Coldplay

"Pools" Glass Animals

"Hold Back the River" James Bay

Just off the top of my head. Mostly within the last decade.

I've got my mind set on you

Traveling Wilburies

Very deep stuff there. Subtle as well as deep thoughts and concepts wrapped into glorious instrumentals weaved into an unforgettable tapestry.

you walked into this one wrote:

"Tribute" Tenacious D

"Ordinary People" John Legend

"Everlong" Foo Fighters

"The Scientist" Coldplay

"Pools" Glass Animals

"Hold Back the River" James Bay

Just off the top of my head. Mostly within the last decade.

2001, 2004, 1997, 2002 ...

The last two are in the past couple of years but this shows yet again how much music since the late 00s has taken a nosedive.

For more music of that period I'll submit most of the songs from the Silversun Pickups album "Carnavas."