Malcolm Gladwell article on Caster Semenya

There are Thai ladyboys that look like supermodels. I still don't think they should be allowed to compete against XX women.

Jon Orange wrote:

This anti Semenya nonsense is based on what she looks like. If she was cute but androgynous, there wouldn't be such bigotry.

So whom did I accuse of bigotry in that post? Not rojo, not Gladwell. It was the anti Semenya trolls.

And my point still stands. If she was cute and androgynous, she would not get the same treatment.

I'll say it again 1.55 is 14-15% slower than Rudisha. I think a 'normal' woman can run 1.52 and without drugs too.

But when that happens, the floodgates will open again, like they did over Ayana's 10000m time.

Some of you men are very insecure about how fast a woman can run. There are some great women runners in that 800 final, in case y'all hadn't noticed. Some of them aren't called Caster Semenya.

I just want to see a good race. Like in the women's 1500.

Look Above wrote:

5:03? Damn, that is impressive for a 52 year old.

Gladwells mother is Jamaican so he has an unfair advantage.

It would be funny (and not at all unlikely) if Malcolm Gladwell is on here counter-trolling Jon O.

Scuse the typo, there are going to be some great women runners in that final.

What makes you think I'm trolling, Mr Sockpuppet?

Do you even follow the event?

Jon Orange wrote:

What makes you think I'm trolling, Mr Sockpuppet?

Do you even follow the event?

Well, you are either trolling or an imbecile and I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Bleu wrote:

The Kenyan "women" is a man!

The view of millions who trust the evidence of their own eyes.

I’ve just had a phone call from a cousin, who like millions of similar members of the public who only watch track every four years when the Olympics come round - asking me what was that young man doing running in a woman’s race?

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Since testosterone shows natural variance across the competitors, it is very arbitrary to make a cut-off and say that a certain level is too high for competitors.

That's true, unless the person with elevated testosterone had it at a level drastically more than ALL of her competitors and ANY competitor in history who was allowed to compete.

Other women have had elevated testosterone, but apparently not to the standard of what is deemed unacceptable.

Now I sort of want blood screens and lab work done of all the male and female athletes just to compare and contrast and compare it to their performance.

Jon Orange wrote:

I'm keeping out of this argument of what is a natural testosterone level for a woman, or a man.

Just saying, 1.55 is 14-15% slower than David Rudisha. That's bigger than 10% isn't it?

Maybe I'm better at arithmetic than Malcolm Gladwell. His article annoys me with it's troll like stupidity. Makes me want to race him over a mile.

You have not raced for several years, but keep dreaming.

D-Nice wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Since testosterone shows natural variance across the competitors, it is very arbitrary to make a cut-off and say that a certain level is too high for competitors.

That's true, unless the person with elevated testosterone had it at a level drastically more than ALL of her competitors and ANY competitor in history who was allowed to compete.

Other women have had elevated testosterone, but apparently not to the standard of what is deemed unacceptable.

Now I sort of want blood screens and lab work done of all the male and female athletes just to compare and contrast and compare it to their performance.

Right. Well, the philosophical problem is that you are taking something that is a spectrum and trying to make it a binary.

I'm not saying it can't be done or even that it is wrong to do it. But it is philosophically very difficult to pick one point along that spectrum and say anything to the right of this is too high and too the left is OK.

I mean, in many ways this is the same philosophical problem that underlines the whole thing. As much as people want it to be, and even though it may usually be, sex is not inherently binary. And yet binary is the way our competition categories are set up.

Melissa Bishop is also Canadian, and it's always exciting to see her run. I like watching her much more than seeing that Semenya dude.

Isn't that the entire point of MG referencing Epstein...that arbitrary cutoffs are essential to the existence of sport?

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Jon Orange wrote:

What makes you think I'm trolling, Mr Sockpuppet?

Do you even follow the event?

Well, you are either trolling or an imbecile and I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

I asked you if you are even following the event. Take a closer look. People are prejudiced against Caster Semenya based on her looks. What about Wambui?

And for you to accuse me of trolling is a bit rich. The amount of $hit that you let go by on these threads. As for your own multiple personality stuff....well, what can I say?

The difference between Bolt and Semenya

Bolt will remain not only the fastest man FOREVER but also at the top of the list of athletes executed by the illuminati with false accusations.

Same as almost everyone else in the list: Illuminati sentenced Bolt to be executed by "on drugs".

Contrast it with one of the few exceptions on that list:

South Africa's Casten Semenya: executed on gender rather than on drugs

TV "commentators" around the globe are ordered to use the same defamatory expressions about Semenya as to all other athletics and cycling champions still competing, while replacing drugs with gender.

Remidner: Defamation paves the way for the official execution, other than directly advancing the same agendas as banned athletes, that include the destruction of atletics.

The Casten Semenya paradox

Casten Semenya is the only 800 m athlete who would have had a chance to break the 1982 world record had she not been non-stop psychologically tortured ever since she went under the two minutes barrier.

Paradoxically at a time where the iiluminati are so desperate for new world records that 2014 they manufactured the first one, at the men's pole vault (albeit a new wolrd record was not the only agenda in that particular case)

Casten Semenya - the "woman is man" trangsender agenda combined with "destruction of athletics"

Illuminati mockery in literal "black is white" went as far as to have black Michael Jackson becoming "white with boilogical white children".

But Michael Jackson also is a star in anothe "black is white" agenda, this time figuratively: the "man is woman" or illuminati transgender agenda.

Semenya is the name that stands for the same illuminati combining this type of mockery with the torture of another great athletics champion, this time exceptionally not with false accusations of doping but rather of gender.

BASICS

Apr 2016: Michael Jackson to Prince: pop variations in Black is White: literal, psy-op type, illuminati commandment

http://black-see-white.blogspot.com/2016/04/jackson-prince-pop-variations-literal.html

For the the doping conspiracy, Bolt's execution and illuminati desperate for new world records, start here

From Jamaica's Lightning Bolt 2009 to South Africa's Van Nikerk 2016

Universe World and Human Physical Limits: was the very LAST milestone set at Rio's 400 meters?

http://end-of-an-age.blogspot.com/2009/08/usain-bolt-maximum-speed-human-physical.html

All in Blog - Obama transgener bathrooms bomb, Semenya's staged marriage and fake Bruce Jenner added as introduction to original Aug 2009 article

http://illuminati-sport.blogspot.com/2009/08/semenya-transgender-psyop-destruction.html

Jon Orange wrote:

People are prejudiced against Caster Semenya based on her looks. What about Wambui?

This is simply not true. Most people seem to be concerned that she has testicles and not ovaries. Testicles that produce a lot of testosterone, a lot more than ovaries. Testosterone, in higher amounts, absolutely does cause secondary sex characteristics in males - hence why Caster does look like a stereotypical male. (I won't get into what happens when estosterone is present in the first few weeks of fetal development). While your wife may have testicles and I am sure you enjoy them, most females don't have testicles. So, what you should do is go play with your wife's balls and stop posting your stupidity on here.

NYTimes has a pro-Semenya article out. They are sticking with the "science has proved testorone provides an advantage" line from CAS. Not her fault, let her compete with the gals. Argument it is unfair not to let her compete.

I disagree, but here is their argument.

Jon Orange wrote:

I'm one year older than Gladwell and 20% body fat. If I raced him, I would run on both Pure Love and Pure Hate.

This anti Semenya nonsense is based on what she looks like. If she was cute but androgynous, there wouldn't be such bigotry.

This idiot must be a beach volleyball fan who accidentally stumbled into track.

In track we actually evaluate athletes on a numerical scale related to their running performance--we call this "time".

You obviously live in a world where you only care about appearances.

Jon Orange wrote:

I'm one year older than Gladwell and 20% body fat. If I raced him, I would run on both Pure Love and Pure Hate.

This anti Semenya nonsense is based on what she looks like. If she was cute but androgynous, there wouldn't be such bigotry.

If you were faster you'd use more energy and not be fat. That's why elites are skinny. They use more energy at a higher rate.