Can't believe I agree with Metric Miler +1
Can't believe I agree with Metric Miler +1
A bitter man wrote:
He is NOT in the shape of his life. I know for a fact that he is nowhere near his training times from 2012 and 2013.
Here Mo Farah get the info 4rom the horse's mouth
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3613904/Mo-Farah-wins-10K-Prefontaine-Classic.htmlNo 5k wrote:
Sunken Chest wrote:Oh, please.
The big pink elephant is not running the 5k.
That probably why he specifically mentioned the 10k
Kam is more talented than Mo on the roads but on the track that is another story .Mo is the king of track at the moment
p.s you will have no choice but to have a sit n kick specialist at least till next's world championship in London , that is when Mo will hang up his spikes
tony the tiger wrote:
A bitter man wrote:He is NOT in the shape of his life. I know for a fact that he is nowhere near his training times from 2012 and 2013.
Here Mo Farah get the info 4rom the horse's mouth
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3613904/Mo-Farah-wins-10K-Prefontaine-Classic.html
I do not believe he is in better shape than 2012. As good, perhaps, but personally I think age will have taken just a bit away. I still think he will double, though.
Thanks to repeat push ups n set ups , Mo Farah is in better shape than ever ;)
Double double, baby
800 Dude says:
"Kam will never be the GOAT. He will never even be in the discussion...People keep talking about his potential as if he's 18, but he's 22. That's not "very young" for an elite distance runner."
So where was Farah when he was 22? Undeveloped, yet to happen. He certainly didn't run a sub-13 5k at that age, as Kamworor did last weekend.
Kam has a lot of progression left in him. The sky is the limit for him. It's true, as Metric Miler says, that Kam doesn't have the flat out speed of Farah (he's 12 seconds behind Mo in 1500/Mile) but the longer the race, the more time for him to apply his strength, to crush the pace. That will happen in the Rio 10k. All this talk of the GOAT. If Farah was equivalent to Bekele and Gebrselassie, he would already be somewhere close to their times, rather than 20 to 30 seconds back...
Last week, Kamworor ran (and almost won Pre) in order to sharpen his 5k speed. When he comfortably hits halfway in the Rio 10k at ~13:15 to 13:20, where is Mo going to be? On his heels, or 10 meters back? And if Mo goes with the early pace, will he be able to kick in his usual way? I don't think so.
chilhowee wrote:The sky is the limit for him. It's true, as Metric Miler says, that Kam doesn't have the flat out speed of Farah (he's 12 seconds behind Mo in 1500/Mile)
err...
Kamwo hasn't run a serious 1500 on the circuit
in fact iaaf don't have him listed as ever having run 1 !!!
http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/kenya/geoffrey-kipsang-kamworor-262444someone posted here that his coach reckoned he was in 3'32 shape last year which is fantastic speed for a 10k/5k guy not called mo
if that 3'32 estimate last year is correct, that woud be better 1500 speed than tergat or eliud when they were running 5/10k & even bekele only had official 3'32pb
nothing wrong with Kamwo's speed, just that mo's is quantum leap better than any 10k guy ever before
A bitter man wrote:
He is NOT in the shape of his life. I know for a fact that he is nowhere near his training times from 2012 and 2013.
Please share
SkeetSurfer wrote:
tony the tiger wrote:Here Mo Farah get the info 4rom the horse's mouth
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3613904/Mo-Farah-wins-10K-Prefontaine-Classic.htmlI do not believe he is in better shape than 2012. As good, perhaps, but personally I think age will have taken just a bit away. I still think he will double, though.
Right. Just because he says it doesn't mean it's true. Could be him trying to convince and scare others off. Make them believe they have no chance and they should just Hand him the golds how!
rio is going to be a slowfest. mo will kick for the win, almost uncontested.
Mo might be a good deal older than he claims. Says he grew up watching Muhammad Ali! I don't think Lagat is even old enough to remember Ali's boxing career.
Arthritis will stop Mo from taking another double gold.
It's a well known fact that having to, effectively, double peak (for trials AND the champs) is far more difficult than if everything for the last 12 months, or maybe even longer, is geared totally towards Rio. Farah will have that advantage in Rio. It may not be a huge advantage and certainly it doesn't mean he will be handed the golds on a plate but at the highest levels of distance running where the difference between gold and no medal at all can be a second or two I still say it is an advantage that could be crucial in the final outcome.
UK Athletics have very few genuine medal chances in Rio. Those prospects, identified months ago, will be supported in evrey possible way. If the sport does not deliver in terms of medals its funding, from the National Lottery, is reduced- meaning job losses at UKA among coaches and bureaucrats. All I'm saying is that Farah will get assistance from his national federation that his rivals from, say, Kenya and Ethiopia won't.
Agreed, like setting up this horrendous 3k field for tomorrow.
calculo wrote:
chilhowee wrote:The sky is the limit for him. It's true, as Metric Miler says, that Kam doesn't have the flat out speed of Farah (he's 12 seconds behind Mo in 1500/Mile)err...
Kamwo hasn't run a serious 1500 on the circuit
in fact iaaf don't have him listed as ever having run 1 !!!
http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/kenya/geoffrey-kipsang-kamworor-262444someone posted here that his coach reckoned he was in 3'32 shape last year which is fantastic speed for a 10k/5k guy not called mo
if that 3'32 estimate last year is correct, that woud be better 1500 speed than tergat or eliud when they were running 5/10k & even bekele only had official 3'32pb
nothing wrong with Kamwo's speed, just that mo's is quantum leap better than any 10k guy ever before
Unfortunately it seems my post got deleted. I'll summarise here again:
3:32 is made up and still 4 seconds slower than Farah's actual 1500m PB so Kamoworor does have a problem if he can't run the legs off Farah.
Absolutely! Not worth paying to watch this race and I certainly won't be tuning in on TV. It would be more interesting if the BBC televised one of Mo's training sessions!
Metric Miler wrote:
Unfortunately it seems my post got deleted. I'll summarise here again:
3:32 is made up and still 4 seconds slower than Farah's actual 1500m PB so Kamoworor does have a problem if he can't run the legs off Farah.
You are delusional if you think Kam is 12 seconds slower than Farah in a 1500.
ummhuh wrote:
Metric Miler wrote:Unfortunately it seems my post got deleted. I'll summarise here again:
3:32 is made up and still 4 seconds slower than Farah's actual 1500m PB so Kamoworor does have a problem if he can't run the legs off Farah.
You are delusional if you think Kam is 12 seconds slower than Farah in a 1500.
You are delusional if you read '4' as '12'?
mo is in trouble unless he improves damn quick in next few weeks which he obviously will
he ran 7'32 which was windy run so obviously sub-7'30 worth without, but not much
he complained about pacing, which was bit quick going out then slowed bit too much after that only offering 5'01.75 at 2k
only finished with a 59+
i do think he couda gone as quick as ~ 7'27.5 today on 0 wind day with smooth faster pacing to 2k of ~ 4'58+
his recent 10k looked ~ 26'45 if flat-out from gun paced only to 5k as standard in such
so, we have to look for line of fit encompassing ~ 7'27.5/26'45
the nearest one to 0.25s for 400/800 is ~ 52.0 compared to ~ 49.5 last year
he has lost ~ 3.5s in basic 400 speed !!!
i believe training for cardiff has finally finished his speed
52.00 / 1'49.25
->
3'33.77 !!!
7'27.23
12'49.56
26'44.75
mo, currently has a catastrophic loss of speed where if he ran a 1500 now woud likely do hugely well to break 3'34
more importantly for last lap, his current 400 speed is ~ 52.0
compare to last year when he looked capable of 3'27-flat as virtually solo 3'28.9 in vacuum behind Asbel
49.5 / 1'45.00
->
3'27.08 !
7'16.66 !!!
12'35.39 !!
26'25.79
this is not just a " in heavy training" excuse
he went for a fast 3k & last year in peak shape he couda gone 7'16+ !!!, but today looked no better than 7'27+
( yes i know people will argue that 7'16+ is ridiculous, but 3k is nowdays virtually extinct event )
mo is nearly 7s slower 1500 shape than last year
that won't get made up in coupla months
he will be whupped in 5k even if he wins a shocking jogfest in 10k
Ventolin,
Please keep on posting here as you are one of the very few who know what they are talking about ..I do enjoy your posts good, sir .
Hopefully Mo will regain his speed for the Monaco diamond league on July 15th as he said he will run either 1500 or 3/5 K