Gay Agenda's next target: Frozen 2

buffy wrote:

Cool username dude! You're totally living in an Orwellian society. Watch out for the Thought Police!

By the way, being gay isn't a choice--why would anyone choose to be discriminated against? If you made a choice to be straight, sounds like you're repressing something.

Also, over exaggerating is repeating yourself. Exaggerating is the word that you want.

Emmanuel Goldstein wrote:

For the umpteenth time, the issue (as you are very well aware) is not sexual issue "confusion" but how that concept is overworked (as well as over exaggerated) and used as an excuse by the media and public schools to prey upon children and indoctrinate them into accepting a set of preferences and choices in order to achieve an overarching agenda.

Oh! Out comes the "choice" argument! Guess what? I was born with the predisposition to kill people who made me mad, steal things I wanted really, really badly, and be a serial womanizer! Fortunately, for the good of society, and the sake of my marriage, I chose to not do those things. But thanks for recognizing my cool factor!

Would you be ok if the plot line of frozen 2 is that elsa begins dating another woman, but we find out that the woman is really the evil witch Lesbiannis who has cast a spell on Elsa. The handsome prince defeats Lesbiannis and her evil henchmen, breaks the spell and marries Elsa.

buffy wrote:

Cool username dude! You're totally living in an Orwellian society. Watch out for the Thought Police!

By the way, being gay isn't a choice--why would anyone choose to be discriminated against? If you made a choice to be straight, sounds like you're repressing something.

Also, over exaggerating is repeating yourself. Exaggerating is the word that you want.

Emmanuel Goldstein wrote:

For the umpteenth time, the issue (as you are very well aware) is not sexual issue "confusion" but how that concept is overworked (as well as over exaggerated) and used as an excuse by the media and public schools to prey upon children and indoctrinate them into accepting a set of preferences and choices in order to achieve an overarching agenda.

What you are tempted by may not be a choice, but acting on those temptations sure is.

I haven't had alcohol in nearly 8 years, for instance.

Bop wrote:

Would you be ok if the plot line of frozen 2 is that elsa begins dating another woman, but we find out that the woman is really the evil witch Lesbiannis who has cast a spell on Elsa. The handsome prince defeats Lesbiannis and her evil henchmen, breaks the spell and marries Elsa.

Seems awfully mature for a G Rating...

I think I discovered what my real objection is.

If Disney wants to start from scratch with a gay main character, then go for it. Let people decide if they like it or not. But the talk of hijacking established (and beloved) storylines and characters to further a liberal agenda is shameful.

Emmanuel Goldstein wrote:

buffy wrote:

Cool username dude! You're totally living in an Orwellian society. Watch out for the Thought Police!

By the way, being gay isn't a choice--why would anyone choose to be discriminated against? If you made a choice to be straight, sounds like you're repressing something.

Also, over exaggerating is repeating yourself. Exaggerating is the word that you want.

Oh! Out comes the "choice" argument! Guess what? I was born with the predisposition to kill people who made me mad, steal things I wanted really, really badly, and be a serial womanizer! Fortunately, for the good of society, and the sake of my marriage, I chose to not do those things. But thanks for recognizing my cool factor!

But being gay doesn't actually hurt anyone?

Bghgvbgbgv wrote:

With the fast rise in world population, I think that more same sex marriages can only help the planet.

They all seem to have children somehow so I don't think it will.

thejeff wrote:

You honestly want to argue that glamorizing a behavior has no effect on people viewing it, especially young children?

I have no idea what you mean by the last two lines of your post.

Let's assume for a second that all your paranoia is justified.

How is having a gay character "glamorizing" behavior?

Is it "glamorizing" heterosexuality every time there is a straight character?

If there is a boyfriend/girlfriend in a movie, are kids suddenly swayed to become straight?

You live in an interesting world where kids wait to choose sexuality until viewing it on a screen.

thejeff wrote:

buffy wrote:

Cool username dude! You're totally living in an Orwellian society. Watch out for the Thought Police!

By the way, being gay isn't a choice--why would anyone choose to be discriminated against? If you made a choice to be straight, sounds like you're repressing something.

Also, over exaggerating is repeating yourself. Exaggerating is the word that you want.

What you are tempted by may not be a choice, but acting on those temptations sure is.

I haven't had alcohol in nearly 8 years, for instance.

Wait, thejeff did you just admit to being a repressed homosexual? It would definitely make sense based on your posting record.

To Mr. Goldstein, as already pointed out there is a HUGE difference between a consensual relationship between adults (which you should not care about) and non-consensual violent acts (which we are all concern about). Try and find better examples next time.

L L wrote:

I think Hollywood has done a lot of glamorizing the mafia.

They surely glamorize guns.

Should we be concerned about the agenda of violence the same?

I've watched the Godfather and the Birdcage.

I haven't gotten into crime or tried to get close to another dude.

This thread was deleted by a moderator. I got a request to put it back up so I read it and decided to put it back up. The post above was a very smart one. Nice post.

It's fascinating how kids are growing up so different nowadays. I was visiting a friend the other day in Mass and his 5 year old said to me, "Some kids have two moms." There are many kids like that in his school.

I was like, "Yes they do." I started to ask him if he thought it was better to have a mom and a dad and explain I thought it was as they complent each other but ended up not saying anything as I didn't want him going up the kid in his school and saying, "My dad's friend says it's better to have a mom and a dad than two moms."

Exactly. With the number of one-parent and dysfunctional two-parent households in this country, the obsession with the "evils" of same-sex parents is baffling. If a kid is happy and content and has two loving parents, I think the fact that they're both male or both female isn't really a top concern.

Let them make the movie and let the market decide whether it is a hit or not. I agree that it would be ridiculous to hijack an existing character, though.

I think the tough part would be figuring out a story-line for a Disney film. I guess it could be a traditional love story, but what would be the setting? Most Disney movies are in old world cultures. I could see it working out more as a Pixar film.

I thought that the Princess and the Frog was the best Disney film since Beauty and the Beast, but little girls didn't agree with me. Brave, despite a very, very heavy marketing push, never really caught on either. Little girls seem to want blonde bombshells, so it looks like whatever lesbian characters they choose are going to have to be lipstick lesbians. I mean, hell, Anna was the star of Frozen and no one even talks about her. Elsa is the only thing that matters and she is barely in the movie.

What is wrong with this? Game of Thrones is more popular and talked about than frozen, despite both being in the same genre. Perhaps Disney can learn from Hbo's success and include a love scene between Elsa and Anna in the next film. Film 3 could be about their burgeoning relationship and how they have to hide it in order for Elsa to maintain her throne.

Glad this thread was resurrected. I was born in 1957 and went to public schools (w/3 years in parochial schools) in the suburbs of a large midwestern city. In all those years I did not know (or hear of) a single kid from a broken home.

Flash forward to 1988-89 and I'm subbing in the 6th grade of a small rural school and I would guesstimate up to 20% of my students were from broken homes. Needless to say, my mind was blown over how much had changed family-wise in less than a generation.

Now let me ask you the $64,000 question: are you totally comfortable with little kids these days being ok with the fact they have friends who have two (or more) mommies, or two (or more) daddies living in the same household? And if you're not comfortable with that then why?

Or to put the question another way, are you entirely sure that that type of "family structure" is truly healthy for the kids stuck in them and for society in general?

"Let them make the movie and let the market decide whether it is a hit or not. I agree that it would be ridiculous to hijack an existing character, though."

I will freely admit I didn't see the original movie, but wasn't there some subtle hint as to her being a lesbian, that has led to the call for Disney to make that clear in the sequel? If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but if not, they wouldn't exactly be hijacking an existing character.

Emmanuel Goldstein wrote:

Now let me ask you the $64,000 question: are you totally comfortable with little kids these days being ok with the fact they have friends who have two (or more) mommies, or two (or more) daddies living in the same household? And if you're not comfortable with that then why?

Yes, 100% comfortable. Again, with households one parent or two crappy parents or drug addict parents, two parents in love who happen to be the same sex is trivial to most Americans these days.

As for you other comment, 20 years is not the only difference when you're talking suburbs versus rural towns. I taught in the early '90's in a very rural town with a huge proportion of single parents, kids living with random relatives or friends. Now I live in a suburb that is probably at least 80% two-parent homes.

Evil_bigot_the_real_1 wrote:

thejeff wrote:

What you are tempted by may not be a choice, but acting on those temptations sure is.

I haven't had alcohol in nearly 8 years, for instance.

Wait, thejeff did you just admit to being a repressed homosexual? It would definitely make sense based on your posting record.

To Mr. Goldstein, as already pointed out there is a HUGE difference between a consensual relationship between adults (which you should not care about) and non-consensual violent acts (which we are all concern about). Try and find better examples next time.

No, I admitted to being an alcoholic.

Bop wrote:

Oh, you're thinking of what churches do.

Emmanuel Goldstein wrote:

For the umpteenth time, the issue (as you are very well aware) is not sexual issue "confusion" but how that concept is overworked (as well as over exaggerated) and used as an excuse by the media and public schools to prey upon children and indoctrinate them into accepting a set of preferences and choices in order to achieve an overarching agenda.

No, I'm thinking of what Hollywood does:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/elijah-wood-says-theres-secret-153514255.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/22/hollywood-in-the-grip-of-child-abuse-scandal-similar-to-jimmy-sa/

letsracer wrote:

What is wrong with this? Game of Thrones is more popular and talked about than frozen, despite both being in the same genre. Perhaps Disney can learn from Hbo's success and include a love scene between Elsa and Anna in the next film. Film 3 could be about their burgeoning relationship and how they have to hide it in order for Elsa to maintain her throne.

1. I am going to go out on a limb and say that Frozen has made at least five times as much money as GoT.

2. GoT is not geared towards little children.

3. Soft core porn and children's animation are not in the same genre. I think u meant "same setting".