BBC reporting Kenya set to be declared in breach of global anti-doping rules in surprise WADA move

If Kenya is out of Rio, Russia should in no way be considered. Also would like to know what WADA is doing to bring Ethiopia in compliance.

If the Rio Games are thinned out in order to bring a more fair Games in 2020, I'm for it.

And the Chinese, though mostly in other sports besides running.

Does not make much sense. Unless the actual doping situation is much more dirty than imagined even on Letsrun, or the Kenyans actually want to be "banned" from Rio on account of Zika virus risks.

The world has gone quite mad when conspiracy theories start to sound reasonable...

This redoculousi.

Kenya runner not betrayal. Runner Honest. So why mark them as unhonest?

I have enough. British runner and English, can't beat Kenya runner, then have to beat court.

Why?

How about British runner train harder starting? Then will be run fastlier. But they probably have busy with playing play Station and Xboz.

This is setting a very good precedent for cleaning up the sport. Hopefully they are/will be going after Ethiopia with the same vigor. If the Marathon Majors would follow suit then it might be enough to bust up the corruption in EA.

There were tainted medals in '80 and '84 so it's not like this would be the first time the medals were not universally competed for - definitely worth the effort to stop talking and start penalizing.

WMM are as guilty as any country. They have found a way to put a couple dollars into drug testing to appease the public.

Walk through the lobby of the host hotel in London or Boston or CHicago or New York and you will find every dirty agent and coach being wined and dined on WMM dollar

WADA tweets that Kenya's legislation not in line with their rules":

"The CRC cites issues with #Kenya's legislation which it says is not in line with the World Anti-Doping Code."

https://twitter.com/wada_ama/status/730791938702639106

Again, Kenya went further than required in criminalising doping and making it punishable by imprisonment.

... While the Jamaicans, Ethiopians and Americans will be sending the usual cast of pharmacy experiments to compete, this signals that the omerta that kept every nation is safe is broken. ...

You forgot to mention the UK chemistry experiments.

And now the NYTimes has a massive story about Russian doping at Sochi. The hits just keep on coming!

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/sports/russia-doping-sochi-olympics-2014.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

WMM non compliant wrote:

WMM are as guilty as any country. They have found a way to put a couple dollars into drug testing to appease the public.

Walk through the lobby of the host hotel in London or Boston or CHicago or New York and you will find every dirty agent and coach being wined and dined on WMM dollar

Ding! Ding! Ding!

It is up to the federations to control doping and not doping is bad for business.

Reedie doesn't want to discourage countries so he will politely suggest they improve and talk about improvements if pressed on the topic.

El Keniano wrote:

Again, Kenya went further than required in criminalising doping and making it punishable by imprisonment.

So you genuinely believe that Kenya is about to get banned for being an anti-doping powerhouse?

WADA think Kenya is so against doping that they're bad for the sport?

Seems a bit of an odd position for WADA to hold.

In reality, criminalising doping without actually trying to catch any dopers is a bit of an empty gesture.

"Lilian Moraa Mariita was given the longest ban - eight years for taking steroids"

Yeah, well she was based out of Hebron, Kentucky. I guess she couldn't get home in time to pay somebody off.

Not just Kenya, apparently. Spain and Mexico also non-compliant.

Mexico and Spain are smoke screens so they can say: "See, we aren't picking on Kenya."

fred wrote:

"Lilian Moraa Mariita was given the longest ban - eight years for taking steroids"

Yeah, well she was based out of Hebron, Kentucky. I guess she couldn't get home in time to pay somebody off.

Doesn't count Fred as she was a #3 to #4 tier Kenyan in Kentucky non-counting category. Please listen to what Renata just said:

This redoculousi.

Kenya runner not betrayal. Runner Honest. So why mark them as unhonest?

I have enough. British runner and English, can't beat Kenya runner, then have to beat court.

Why?

How about British runner train harder starting? Then will be run fastlier. But they probably have busy with playing play Station and Xboz.

Once again Fred, Renata has destroyed your argument with a fantastic answer. OK?

rjm33 wrote:

fred wrote:

"Lilian Moraa Mariita was given the longest ban - eight years for taking steroids"

Yeah, well she was based out of Hebron, Kentucky. I guess she couldn't get home in time to pay somebody off.

Doesn't count Fred as she was a #3 to #4 tier Kenyan in Kentucky non-counting category. Please listen to what Renata just said:

This redoculousi.

Kenya runner not betrayal. Runner Honest. So why mark them as unhonest?

I have enough. British runner and English, can't beat Kenya runner, then have to beat court.

Why?

How about British runner train harder starting? Then will be run fastlier. But they probably have busy with playing play Station and Xboz.

Once again Fred, Renata has destroyed your argument with a fantastic answer. OK?

Ok, me gets it. She had American brain weakness.

I got a lot of shit on here when I took on Renato in an argument about doping in Kenya.

Lots took his side saying there is not a problem in Kenya and said I was a fool who knew nothing, that Renato had far more knowledge on the matter and I was simply making things up to victimise Kenya.

I said in another thread shortly after the Kenyan anti-doping bill that the law was a guise. Designed to make it look like Kenya was tackling anti-doping but in reality testing won't improve significantly and no money or effort had to be laid down by the government to tackle doping 'on the ground'.

Seems WADA saw straight through it too.

Maybe I wasn't talking out of my arse after all.

El Keniano wrote:

They've basically moved the goalposts, meaning they're determined to clear the field for your favourites. Enjoy your medals.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/36275649

I want to point out that as far as we know Kenya, Ethiopia, Jamaica, and the US are not nearly in the same boat as Russia, Turkey, and Ukraine.

This doesn't mean that Kenya shouldn't (or should) be banned, but Russia absolutely needs to be out. All of their top athletes are doping, and as a country they make their athletes dope.

Time may tell us that all of today's top athletes are on something, or it may tell us that many of them are clean. In the latter case, I would expect that many of the top Kenyans turn out to be clean. None of the top Russians are clean -- we all know that -- and I'm not even sure that not doping is even an option for them.

I hope this gets straightened out prior to the games.

I'm assuming Kipchoge and Kiprop are clean. Maybe I'm dreaming. It would suck if they could not run Rio. Let alone Kamworor.

Sure I'd love to see Rupp or Centro with a gold medal, but only if these guys mentioned above are in the race.

Wake up you spoiled child; how about leading off with the fact Kenya has had a few years to clean this up and have acted arrogantly, assuming they'd continue to get a 3rd world free pass...

Odds are great in the past 20 years a doped Kenyan or two has stole millions from clean athletes.

Stop being a big baby and a poor sport.

Many clean and ethical Kenyans have been pushing their country to change and even to pass laws to penalize doping civilly.

THAT'S where you should focus your comments (for emphasis) you big stupid lover of unethical athletes, and baby.