Webb runs 7:48

Oh wow he ran a fast mile in high school and qualified for the olympics...He didn't do squat at the olympics and his PR in High School means nothing...How many guys have run fast times in High School and gone on to do nothing...At this stage in his career Webb is just a glorified (Deified by some) fast HS guy.

Lets see how Webbs time holds up as the season progresses. And I am sorry you may think track is about how fast you run, but it is not...It is how you win, you need to win in the big meets...If Webb ran 8:15 or 7:48 and finished in 2nd place it is the same thing. If Webb won an olympic gold medal with a "slow" time would it not be the same as with a "fast" time? It is the same...Winning is winning and losing is losing...The African runners understand this and have the desire to win, us Americans do not understand that yet.

DOUCHE BAG!!!!!

You know what I changed my mind. I am very happy for Webb, he can not win another race as long as he lives but as long as he runs "fast" people will love him and that is good for him, I would just like to see people from this country win medals and races once in awhile. But apparently we are satisfied with medocrity on the international level. Go to the Reggie Lewis Center tomorrow to see real runners who want to win and be the best in the World compete and let Webb run the mile with his College counter parts. Maybe he will...Or better yet maybe he will run fast.

This guy is an idiot and Webb should be able to beat Carroll.

1st of all if you were of greater talent you would understand. Look at it this way, Webb saw the oportunity to not only race twice 3,000 and 1 mile, he also saw the opportunity to post a nice time by not getting dragged out at WR record pace.

Basically the reason for not running Boston Indoor Games is simple. 1. it's early in the season, and 2. he rather get in a real race situation rather than go and be dragged at out at sub 30 sec pace with Bekele. A race with Bekele is basically Bekele Vs. the pace setters. Everyone else in that race gets taken out way to fast and eats you know what at the end (why do you think Ritz isn't running).

To say Webb entered BU to race college guys is just silly. He knew Mark would be there and knew he would have to race. He puts up a good time and still gets bashed. (If he had run 7:48 at Boston Indoor you would have said hey Webb ran decent.) This way he also gets to double up and run the mile Sat.

Granted I don't know the truth to why Webb does what he does. Frankly its none of my buisness and none of yours. I just can't believe why it would be too hard for you to say Hey Webb ran a decent race. Good job webb.

Who are you to know what Webb is thinking. Uuhhgg.. Its people like you Dr. Salsa who make this world so miserable..... You've given me heart burn asshole...

The difference is I don’t claim to know what’s right for Webb, you do. Thus if you think you know what’s best tell us where your expertise in Webb’s training and mind set comes from. You assume he ran this race rather than BIG because he thought he could win it and it would be an easy race, but you actually have no idea why he truly ran it. Your assumption is what makes you look like an ass.

On his leaving school, we’ve all been over this. Ultimately he had to do what was best for him, not what Dr. Salsa (be a man a tell us your real name) thinks he should do. Had he stayed in school people, probably you, would have still claimed he should of done the opposite and claimed that you know what is right for him. Also, do you honestly believe there wouldn’t have been pressure on him??? When he got 4th at NCAA’s freshman year people were going nuts. In college he HAD to win every race. No matter what, what he did last year speaks for itself and with that alone I really shouldn’t even be getting into this petty discussion with you.

If you take a second place to an accomplished runner in a pr as his first race since the Olympics in August as a failure, well then most are frankly failures in your eyes.

[quote]Dr. Salsa wrote:

Since Webb left Michigan the only thing he has done is consitantly find ways to lose races that he should win and choke on large stages.quote]

What did he ever do at Michigan???

Is this a Michigan coach posting again...??

Collegiate racing schedule...let's see this is his first race since the Olympics. You're right, he sure is on a collegiate racing schedule. If you can't tell, Webb's training is pretty periodized. He improves a lot over the course of the season. Even Lagat just runs 4 flat all winter in smaller American meets. By the way, the time to challenge the best in the world is when it matters or even when you feel you are in your best shape. He would gain nothing from BIG other than the exact type of race that all of you complain about. You have to admit that if Webb ran 7:35 in BIG then all of you would be like "Oh Webb, what are you doing. You already know how to run fast. You need to work on tactics. You can't just have a pace setter all the time. So what does he do? He works on tactics and practices racing on back to back days which he will need to do at championships, and you come on here and complain b/c he didn't run a race where he would just play follow the leader. Please stop posting. You are the reason why our best runners have so much pressure and why it isn't fun for them. Please stop typing.

Webb ran *7:47-low* PR his first time out this season- most important he took the race by the balls and didn't sit-and-kick which would have played to his speed. Looks like the "Renewed Webb" of 2004 is back to stay.

Honestly, if you saw the race can you tell me Webb's strategy was a good one? He looked terrible after the first burst and his second surge killed him.

These tactical mistakes are why I say he needs to run more big races. He needs the experience to know a guy like Carrol will eat him up if he makes these mistakes. You have to know when a guy is stronger than you and will not fold with a couple harmless surges in a race of that length.

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Well it’s true; he does need to learn better tactics. However, do you honestly think a race like BIG in January is the place to learn these tactics? BIG is going to be a glorified time trial. He learns a lot more from a head to head race where he needs to make quick decisions such as this race tonight. He may have chosen wrong in his tactics, but as has been stated, least he wasn’t a pussy and ran a tradition sit and kick race, he tried to grab it by the balls. From this hopefully he will learn to better time his surges. He’s 22, if that, he’s learning.

to change the subject a little...dan wilson and the rest of the ZAP crew looked like they ran pretty well.

From that argument stems my belief in the collegiate system which is why i critisize him leaving Michigan...Again I think if he ran BIG and ran it with the intent to finish 2nd and not worry what Bekele does he would have had a better experience and may have made some of the people on here happier with a faster time. My main argument is we need to focus on winning races and not necessarily running against the clock.

You want to know what, I love the doc he's spicey!

It doesn't matter what is best for webb, he is all the US has for a mile talent, frankly our best should be battling the best from the rest of the world (Webb is a product of why the US sucks in track from the 1500-the 10k,no balls). Whenever the Eth's or Kenyan's race they run for the title they don't f around, they find real races where they can justifify supremacy through huge victories or complete sweeps of the top 3 places. Webb has no xc talent as u will c come the xc world's, he will not stand out, preparing for xc is a waste of his time (and given his performance tonight it doesnot look like he will be around much longer). As a professional Webb should focus on his god given talent the mile,he should become #1 in the world in it, & hold the position for as long as he can. This is what the US needs we are now reestablishing our talent in the marathon, and this is what webb ultimalty wants (no one can deny this).

Well, once again ultimately Webb had to do what was best for him. To harp on him leaving school is useless because it’s done. Along with this, the fact that you added “we” in your statement "we need to focus on winning races and not necessarily running against the clock" just pisses me off, as if Webb’s running is a collective Letsrun effort.

Anyways, your “main argument” seems to be opposite what you just said. You want Webb to focus on winning races and not necessarily running against the clock, but yet you want him to run for second essentially against the clock at BIG.

Whatever your main point is, my main point is that none of us know his reasoning for running this race, don’t assume you know what he is thinking.

My guess is still that this weekend is simply a workout for World XC trials considering he has done low-key races in the past to get ready for bigger ones. But hey, that’s my two cents.

by we I mean the country as a whole. And I was implying at BIG he would be racing better competition, competing for 2nd place at BIG than he did against Carroll at BU. He would have had a large more competitive pack to run with.