Nick Symmonds: "If I got fired up about every youngster who ran a fast time, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night,"

That boy be an American coward. He was selected to represent the U.S. of A in international competition. Then knew he'd get whooped and cried I won't run if I have to wear a Nike jacket around. boo hoo baby Nickie. You never had a problem when you were sponsored by them and other athletes weren't. I got no respect for that type of shameful self centered behavior.

Who would win if, say, guys like True had the same advantages as Rupp?

Nick is correct about logos and the undue influence of Nike. This is a legimate fight that affects professional athletes. Nick is also a bit of a narcissist. I think some people think he's more in it for himself than the "good of track-kind." That's the perception. This does not take away the validity of his stance. He DID weaken his position/perception by NOT running in the world championships after his issues (for backing out) were addressed

Going forward, it is imperative for him to run well to win popular support for this fight. He wouldn't have audiene without a long and successful career in the sport. I think he knows, once he's done, it will be harder for him to get a pulpit. A few years after he's done, he could quickly be forgotten...in his place one of those kids running times keeping him up at night.

1:42.80 is the age 32 WR. Gray

1:42.60 Age 33 Kiptoo

1:43.85 Age 34 Kiptoo

1:43..36 Age 35 Gray

Notable: 1:43.38 age 32 11 months- Seb Coe

Go Nick! even 35 years can run close to 1:43! You got a few good years left.

You're correct about Nick being a bit of a narcissist. However I believe being a bit of a narcissist is the little extra edge that takes a person from being an also ran to a world class achiever.

Everyone is going to have their own opinion about his stance on logos/sponsorship. I can't nor don't pretend to know why he did what he did. But I respect him, if he's being honest, for taking the position he did. Who the hell has the right to tell an American citizen what he/she can/can't wear when their not on the track/preforming their event. There's something that smells so wrong/is so Un-American with that.

SoThoughtful wrote:

SoConfused wrote:

Nick haters....

If Nick was faster... would you be OK with him fighting for the athletes in our sport?

How fast does a USTAF champ need to run before we allow him to share his thoughts?

1:40.90

If he ran that, everyone here would discount him as a doper

cwarcarblue11 wrote:

SoThoughtful wrote:

1:40.90

If he ran that, everyone here would discount him as a doper

Yes, of course. But we would allow him to share his thoughts first and only then would we discount them as those of a doper!

I agree with everything you say. He's been fighting this particular fight for years. Good on him. That last post may have sounded somewhat harsh. \

Happy Jack wrote:

yacka zulu wrote:

You're correct about Nick being a bit of a narcissist. However I believe being a bit of a narcissist is the little extra edge that takes a person from being an also ran to a world class achiever.

Everyone is going to have their own opinion about his stance on logos/sponsorship. I can't nor don't pretend to know why he did what he did. But I respect him, if he's being honest, for taking the position he did. Who the hell has the right to tell an American citizen what he/she can/can't wear when their not on the track/preforming their event. There's something that smells so wrong/is so Un-American with that.

Yikeserrific wrote:

Sounds like the fat old man is afraid of Donovan Brazier.

Side note, does anyone know if Brazier has raced since the 145?

interesting question wrote:

Huh? Nick Symmonds runs the 100 metres now? Do you mean 800m runner sensational runner Boris Berian?

By the sensational Berian do you mean the most doped runner in the history of running and he's still inconsistent and can't beat anyone?

He probably can't sleep at night anyway with all that caffeinated gum he chews

SoConfused wrote:

Nick haters....

If Nick was faster... would you be OK with him fighting for the athletes in our sport?

How fast does a USTAF champ need to run before we allow him to share his thoughts?

He's not though. He's fighting for himself and said as much in his crappy gum lawsuit.

It's a narrative sold by nick supporters and bought by the uninformed.

Case in point he had no problem with the uni requirements when he ran for Nike.

800 isn't distance. Outside of LR no one knows who nick is. He's inside the track echo chambers Athletes like lolo jones has broken through. Not whiney priviledged white boys.

Nope!! wrote:

norunnerno wrote:

He should be. Nicky has become an attention seeking pathetic figure now that he can no longer run fast.

Do you know why most people don´t give a f*ck about distance running. Because it is dominated by a bunch of anonymous, boring Africans. Running needs more controversial "media whores".

Look what happened with the interest for XC skiing in Europe when a controversial, cocky guy like Petter Northug broke through.

Rosa Parks fought for herself and her seat. What's wrong with selfishly fighting for what's right?

Those of you who hate Nick for his ego. What do you think of Mohammed Ali, Pre, Jordan and other ego driven champs?

I know he ran a 4x4. No idea what he split. And I think he ran a dmr, not sure what leg. Sorry for knowing so little lol. But he has raced a couple times

Bill Walker wrote:

Yikeserrific wrote:

Sounds like the fat old man is afraid of Donovan Brazier.

Side note, does anyone know if Brazier has raced since the 145?

He's mostly been running relays this season, several 4x4s and DMRs.

bigtool05 wrote:

Bill Walker wrote:

Side note, does anyone know if Brazier has raced since the 145?

He's mostly been running relays this season, several 4x4s and DMRs.

He just ran a 1:46.7 800 Q at SEC champs this evening

Time for Nick to get fired up.

Or start planning his mid season "injury" to pull out of the Trials instead of facing thr best.