Magness on Genzebe: "The arrogance of it all is astounding"

Consider this.... wrote:

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/w_1500ok.htm

i literally laughed out loud.[/quote]

That is an eye opener! Who's legit on that list that's under 3:56?[/quote]

This is not news or anything

The women's 1500m is the most outrageously doped event

The clean WR seems to be about 3-57 ,but who is it?

7 seconds faster than the fastest clean athlete over 1500m

Is that possible?

Who is the "fastest clean athlete"?

It is Shannon Rowbury, of course.

It is obviously impossible that anyone could have better genes or work harder or smarter than her. I think we should just stop contesting the women's 1500. We have found the human limits. Anything else must be the result of doping.

Actually, let's stop every event. There obviously can be no more progress.

The context of the tweets indicates that he suspects doping from Dibaba. I know it is nice to be contrarian but that does not really work in this case.

I think he needed to give more thought to what he said to Epstein and BBC. He could not respond to an obvious rebuttal and seemed to conclude that certain acts were doping violations. I encourage people to come forward but they need to be clear in what they are alleging or what information they are requesting and why.

Somewhere Magness is laughing at his critics...

Not looking good! wrote:

Somewhere Magness is laughing at his critics...

Broken clock...

If you accuse everyone of doping, particularly top athletes, of course you will be proven right quite a bit.

Doesn't change he fact that he took a long time to disassociate from a dirty program and his whistleblowing hasn't resulted in any sanctions.

Bring Back the 880 wrote:

Not looking good! wrote:

Somewhere Magness is laughing at his critics...

Broken clock...

If you accuse everyone of doping, particularly top athletes, of course you will be proven right quite a bit.

Doesn't change he fact that he took a long time to disassociate from a dirty program and his whistleblowing hasn't resulted in any sanctions.

In her lead up to her WRs last summer, I remember an article about her doing a 6 x 800 workout were she started at 2:05-06 and came down to 1:59 on her last. Granted, I don't know the rest between the 800m, but that seems like a ridiculously hard workout for a clean athlete.

Each repeat was faster than mile WR pace and got faster. He last repeat was sub-4:00 pace. However, as a general rule, something like 6x800 is geared for 5000m racing. Granted, if it was 6x800 at 2:08 with plenty of rest, I can see that in line with mile training, but it wasn't described as such.

Chinese had systemic doping and their records lasted for over 20 years. Yeah, Dibaba could be a genetic freak, but the odds are more stacked in favor of her doping.

Letsrunners only really hate American runners. So every successful American runner is doping, every American runner that is unsuccessful is "lazy".

They still believe in the idea of the "noble savage" and that the E. African athletes are beyond doping. Any accusations against them, and you are jealous and/or racist.