Hot trials... A weather certainty

Jared Ward ran well and smart last year in LA in similar conditions.

Olytrialswatcher wrote:

Jared Ward ran well and smart last year in LA in similar conditions.

I think he's supposed to be ignored on LR.

extreme runner Dane Rauschenberg from Portland also has difficulty in hot weather.

Dude where are you getting your info that's it's gonna be hot. This race is next week. Yes. That the middle of winter. Even if it were hot why do you think it will matter? This is 12 loops so each is way shorter than a whole marathon and everyone has to run them all so it's even.

Fam is maf wrote:

Dude where are you getting your info that's it's gonna be hot. This race is next week. Yes. That the middle of winter. Even if it were hot why do you think it will matter? This is 12 loops so each is way shorter than a whole marathon and everyone has to run them all so it's even.

right to rise wrote:

extreme runner Dane Rauschenberg from Portland also has difficulty in hot weather.

True. It's in his ahem 'book'

Fam is maf wrote: Even if it were hot why do you think it will matter? This is 12 loops so each is way shorter than a whole marathon and everyone has to run them all so it's even.

WTF does this even mean?

??? 70 degrees divide by 12= means it will a winter like 5.8 degrees on each loop ???

Shookly wrote:

Southwest high pressure building and moving inland. If you are not familiar with this pattern it sets up the most predictable weather of any phenomenon. Highly reliable forecasts can be made 10 days out. Seven days out are all at high confidence. Right now looking at 70+ at gun time and possible low 80s by noon.

This is more of a game changer than the addition of Rupp to the field. Who in the lineup has a hot marathon on their resume?

Meb silver in Athens.

Ritz 2:11:59 in Beijing.

Probably a good time to wag a finger at USATF for blowing off the nearly unanimous vote to have the trials in Houston again and go with the star struck (and corrupt) executive leadership veto to bring the trials to LA.

First, the race has to start at 10 am so that it will be on TV out east at 7 am. In Houston, start time could have been 8 am local time, 8 EST.

Second, it will be very warm with the late start. 70+ by the finish. Houston would have had upper 40s. Sure, it will be warm in Brazil, but why tear runners completely to shreds at the trials?

Third, LA is crazy expensive. Anyone not getting an A standard is either going to have to dig in to their savings in a big way to afford hotels and air fare or do a crazy road trip and stay out in Riverside at a motel 6 before the race.

Precious Roy wrote:

First, the race has to start at 10 am so that it will be on TV out east at 7 am. In Houston, start time could have been 8 am local time, 8 EST.

7 am start in cali would be a 10 am start out here in the east.

NOAA forecast is 68 at 10 AM, 72 at noon, dew point of 38, wind WSW (light quartering headwind on "out leg") at 7 MPH.

xcrunner6 wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

First, the race has to start at 10 am so that it will be on TV out east at 7 am. In Houston, start time could have been 8 am local time, 8 EST.

7 am start in cali would be a 10 am start out here in the east.

Shhh.... don't ruin it bro...

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might want to check that time conversion - the race is at 10 AM CA time/1 PM eastern. Houston doesn't make any difference.

Having a warm weather trials makes a lot of sense for Rio - remember they had the trials for Mexico City at altitude? Will it tear up the athletes more than a regular marathon? probably, but the point is to determine the strongest team for rio, and warm weather is what we're looking at.

LA is not crazy expensive - I just found perfectly fine hotel rooms for $140 a night in normal places. So it might be $40 more than Houston. That's not a big deal.

We'll see how the race goes and then decide if LA was the right decision.

Where is the best info on the race? I checked the site a few weeks ago and did not see much in terms of course info, spectator stuff. I am thinking of driving down there versus watching online

Race info wrote:

Where is the best info on the race? I checked the site a few weeks ago and did not see much in terms of course info, spectator stuff. I am thinking of driving down there versus watching online

No idea why the USATF webpage doesn't link here:

Benji Durden shows up for the major upset.

Hot day (70 at start) = Meb + Ritz @ 2:15 holding hands across the finish. 3rd place someone not named Rupp.

Fam is maf wrote:

Hot day (70 at start) = Meb + Ritz @ 2:15 holding hands across the finish. .

nah - big prize money at this race - they can hug afterwards

First off, that it might be warm in Rio is irrelevant. As I said in another thread, it's one thing to be running a warm weather marathon when the circumstances are such that one has been able to get used to it, and another thing entirely when circumstances conspire against it--for example, a marathon run in the middle of winter. So guys who if given the opportunity would race fine in warm weather, might not be able to in LA because their circumstances won't allow them to get acclimated. And there's no sense to talk about fair or unfair here: these are just the facts. Of course, it doesn't make much sense to me why they didn't schedule the starting time at 8:00 am, whereby the race would have been cool enough. Historically, when LA has had high temps in February, the temps in the morning have still been fine enough. But putting all that aside, the weather adds a large variable to the race. Not only does it put a premium on being able to be acclimated and running well in warm weather, but it puts a premium on experience. This race will be even more unpredictable than it previously was.Finally, about the first 20 miles at 5 per mile being like a training run for Rupp--not only doesn't he train at that distance that fast, but even if it would be relatively easy for him, that is not germane: what is germane is how he feels at 22-24. And that no one can know.