Official 2015 Worlds Day 4 Thread: Women's 1500 and Men's 800 Finals

Honestly I don't find it too suspicious. A 1:40.91 man comes back and runs a lot of 1:43ish races despite still having a slight injury, apparently figures that out over something like 1.5 years and starts running better. Probably in around 1:41-high shape now. What's so unbelievable?

caesarsghost wrote:

Well, that was a joyless 800 meter final. Rudisha reverts to form after sneaking off for some mysterious "speed workouts." Everyone looked miserable when it was over. A miserable race to watch. The dude so obviously got chemical help after his recent troubles.

For the love of all things holy, SOMEONE needs to set up some testing facilities in Kenya.

Why do you watch track?

Old Man Winter wrote:

Honestly I don't find it too suspicious. A 1:40.91 man comes back and runs a lot of 1:43ish races despite still having a slight injury, apparently figures that out over something like 1.5 years and starts running better. Probably in around 1:41-high shape now. What's so unbelievable?

i don't think he's in 1:41 shape. this final was severely watered down, tuka was the only person to have a chance but rudisha outsmarted him. but nothing rudisha has done this year indicated 1:41 fitness, and neither does this. he closed in 51 off of 54, but he's probably closed about as fast in 1:42-1:43 races before.

Cultural Marxi$t makes a fortune in Kenya and Jamaica doping up black athletes.

You sir, are the voice of reason on all these threads! I love hearing what the Americans have to say - American loses, other runners are cheats! Sounds like parents on the side lines of a 10 year old girls' sporting event.

You must be delighted with long jump results. They're not jumping any better than 40 years ago.

It's unbelievable for the same reason that Bolt's victory was unbelievable. Both Bolt and Rudisha have run times that are physically impossible by undoped runners, light years ahead of anything ever run clean. Then they try to go clean for a while to preserve their legacies, and, guess what?, neither is superhuman anymore. Backs against the wall, knowing that they are about to lose the World Championships, both resorted to cheating again. Obvious as all hell.

The USA had a crappy session there!

345elmore wrote:

Can Rutherford 'fluke' another gold? I say not this time!

Want Ketchup with that crow

caesarsghost wrote:

It's unbelievable for the same reason that Bolt's victory was unbelievable. Both Bolt and Rudisha have run times that are physically impossible by undoped runners, light years ahead of anything ever run clean. Then they try to go clean for a while to preserve their legacies, and, guess what?, neither is superhuman anymore. Backs against the wall, knowing that they are about to lose the World Championships, both resorted to cheating again. Obvious as all hell.

Get a dictionary.

Just because you can make up a story that you like to tell yourself doesn't make it "obvious."

xcrunner6 wrote:

SO is symmonds really watching and being like. well damn, good thing I sat at home!

Team USA is cursed. Symmonds would have been DFL.

caesarsghost wrote:

Both Bolt and Rudisha have run times that are physically impossible by undoped runners, light years ahead of anything ever run clean.

Can I get a citation? Can you prove that?

American here. Americans are as doped as anyone . . . usually. Hard to believe we were doped at all this year based on the performances, however. There's been a lot of coverage of the activities of NOP, so maybe we've backed off -- with predictable results.

usa failing hard wrote:

Well our 400M hurdlers and long jumpers just got squat.

I'm confident we'll have a 400M hurlder medalist in Rio. We had contenders here who didn't run well.

Don't know what happened in the long jump. Our top guy, who had a legit shot at gold, fouled twice and jumped WAY below his PB on his one good jump. His PB is significantly longer than the winning jump. But, that's why they have the competition in person and not on paper.

Hartfield had an outside chance to medal, but fouled on all three attempts - whatever happened on securing a mark, no matter how far back.

And, Dendy had horrible qualification without only one non-foul far below his PB.

All is not lost for the future. These guys do have the talent to medal in Rio, but sure flamed out here.

Bring back the 10000 wrote:

Alright, I am becoming skeptical on Dibaba's cleanliness... She went 57 for the 3rd lap and closed like a mad man...

She looked completely relaxed and was smiling the whole way through.

What's the point in expressing skepticism, especially on these boards. We all know that the history of doping in the sport leads to the present day situation where any great performance may or may not be clean, no matter who it is, what event, etc. It's a legit point, but its ceased to be interesting conversation.

caesarsghost wrote:

Well, that was a joyless 800 meter final. Rudisha reverts to form after sneaking off for some mysterious "speed workouts." Everyone looked miserable when it was over. A miserable race to watch. The dude so obviously got chemical help after his recent troubles.

For the love of all things holy, SOMEONE needs to set up some testing facilities in Kenya.

You don't have a clue. I knew Rudisha before you had ever heard of him and he's not the guy you're looking for. Tell everyone here where Jeptoo and Kisorio were when they gave their dirty samples. Stop thinking you know anything about this because you don't.

reed wrote:

Old Man Winter wrote:

Honestly I don't find it too suspicious. A 1:40.91 man comes back and runs a lot of 1:43ish races despite still having a slight injury, apparently figures that out over something like 1.5 years and starts running better. Probably in around 1:41-high shape now. What's so unbelievable?

i don't think he's in 1:41 shape. this final was severely watered down, tuka was the only person to have a chance but rudisha outsmarted him. but nothing rudisha has done this year indicated 1:41 fitness, and neither does this. he closed in 51 off of 54, but he's probably closed about as fast in 1:42-1:43 races before.

I can't agree more, reed!

Bore off to basketball then

Kenya already has testing facilities. Obviosuly your country is not winning that is why you are complaining!!!

Jamaica/USA or the Americas have been dominating sprints for years! Get you sad ass off the gutter!