grant fisher 4:00:27 1600m

[quote]correction guy 4 wrote:

Less than 1.6 seconds, not 2.[quote]CycloneAlum wrote:

Correcting the CorrectionGuy on my estimate - 1.69 seconds per the MtSac conversion table.

1500 split?

manitou wrote:

Rockford freshman runs a 4:10! Wow!

Did Fisher's private coach start recruiting the freshman kid yet?

The Donger wrote:

manitou wrote:

Rockford freshman runs a 4:10! Wow!

Did Fisher's private coach start recruiting the freshman kid yet?

Hey Donger get over it if you can. You keep pissing and moaning about something you will never achieve and a coach that produces great runners. What have you run lately or who have you coached to prominence?

Get over it wrote:

The Donger wrote:

Did Fisher's private coach start recruiting the freshman kid yet?

Hey Donger get over it if you can. You keep pissing and moaning about something you will never achieve and a coach that produces great runners. What have you run lately or who have you coached to prominence?

4:00/8:53 double - probably all alone for both - and still the haters. Poor tortured souls destined for nothing but mediocrity in all facets of life. My hat is tipped.

Does Rockford still have the same coach as Ritz and Hartman had?

Here's a short video of the final straight from Milesplit:http://www.milesplit.com/articles/155696/so-close-to-sub-4-grant-fisher-40028Is this the only video of any of the MHSAA distance races available? ...All those cellphones and nobody snagged a video huh? Hmmm. GET EM UP!!

MI Rocks wrote:

correction guy 4 wrote:

Less than 1.6 seconds, not 2.

One problem, Jim Ryun's race was an actual mile, not 9 meters short. So, Fisher is still 2+ seconds behind the sub-4 with that performance

I was at the meet.

Fisher ran 4:00.28 for the 1600 m and 4:01.66 for the mile. Yes in the same race. There was timing set up for the mile and Fisher ran through the 1600 m finish line and through another finish tape held at the mile mark.

So for all of you who have algorithms to equate different distances, Fisher's differential was factually 1.38 seconds. Not 2 seconds and not 1.6 seconds.

Actually 1.67 seconds off of sub 4

He finished his last 50 m very fast.

And yes I was comparing a mile not 1600 when mentioning Ryan and sub 4 in a pure high school race.[/quote]

That time was converted from a Mile.

No HS runner has ever broken 4:00 in a "strict" 1600m race.

your dad wrote:

If you're talking about 1600, which it sounds like you are, then Alan Webb also ran a high-school only race sub 4. Alan Webb ran 3:59 for 1600 his senior year at Arcadia Invite I believe.

That time was converted from a "mile"

No high schooler has run sub 4 in a "1600" race.

I suspect no one has ever run sub 4 in a "1600" race

Get over it wrote:

The Donger wrote:

Did Fisher's private coach start recruiting the freshman kid yet?

Hey Donger get over it if you can. You keep pissing and moaning about something you will never achieve and a coach that produces great runners. What have you run lately or who have you coached to prominence?

Shoot me an email and let's have a dick measuring contest and compare the all-time lists from those we have coached.

But who is pissing and moaning. And what was I "trying to achieve" exactly by asking that? It's a real question. Fisher's coach & group might do the kid good. If he can run 4:10 with an inferior coach imagine what he could do running in that group.

So has the kid got the call yet?

and this is what Arcadia looked like 14 years ago.

Converted down it is like 4:00.20-31 depending of your factor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niCWRb29y-E

German's double 4:00.34 I think and 8:34.x still best one day double I think.

I wasn't going 2 digits to the right oh wise ones. 1.6 is what has been around...for years! Yes, that is based on average closing speed...not Grant's, duh!!!!I was giving Grant credit, not slighting him, hence the 1.6 versus 2 seconds.. I live very close to his home town of Grand Blanc and have followed him for years. I know you got lose there, but I hope I helped ya out a bit.p.s. A lot of you guys on here are real dope head losers.

MI Rocks wrote:

correction guy 4 wrote:

Less than 1.6 seconds, not 2.

One problem, Jim Ryun's race was an actual mile, not 9 meters short. So, Fisher is still 2+ seconds behind the sub-4 with that performance

I was at the meet.

Fisher ran 4:00.28 for the 1600 m and 4:01.66 for the mile. Yes in the same race. There was timing set up for the mile and Fisher ran through the 1600 m finish line and through another finish tape held at the mile mark.

So for all of you who have algorithms to equate different distances, Fisher's differential was factually 1.38 seconds. Not 2 seconds and not 1.6 seconds.

Actually 1.67 seconds off of sub 4

He finished his last 50 m very fast.

And yes I was comparing a mile not 1600 when mentioning Ryan and sub 4 in a pure high school race.[/quote]

The Donger wrote:

Get over it wrote:

Hey Donger get over it if you can. You keep pissing and moaning about something you will never achieve and a coach that produces great runners. What have you run lately or who have you coached to prominence?

Shoot me an email and let\'s have a dick measuring contest and compare the all-time lists from those we have coached.

But who is pissing and moaning. And what was I \"trying to achieve\" exactly by asking that? It\'s a real question. Fisher\'s coach & group might do the kid good. If he can run 4:10 with an inferior coach imagine what he could do running in that group.

So has the kid got the call yet?

Lol u mad?

If you look back at any recent thread discussing private coaches you will note donger either piling on the hate or having a pity party.

Proud Michigander wrote:

Does Rockford still have the same coach as Ritz and Hartman had?

No, the current coach ran with Ritz (and maybe Hartman as well, I can't remember for certain). This is definitely the best crop of kids he's had since he started coaching, and I'm looking forward to seeing how they develop.