Polly P wrote:
It was on ESPN. In the best interest of the league, Kraft has reluctantly accepted the punishment against his team.
My opinion: he's taking a bullet for Brady. The Brady appeal goes forward. Kraft and Goodell met on Saturday and hugged. This is part of a deal in the works to reduce Brady's suspension.
Looks like Polly A (as in Pollyanna) is wrong. I love it when liars and story twisters are proven wrong.
New Sense wrote:
Olive Oil wrote:There is still no evidence that he told anyone to deflate balls below 12.5psi after the referees checked the balls. To say he deserves 1 game for lying is absurd. He has denied this since the beginning and the evidence supports him.
If he deserves a suspension so does Andrew Luck who was also playing with deflated balls. Additionally, an investigation needs to be launched into the psi of Green Bay Packer footballs.
You have exposed yourself as the ultimate fan boy. It has reached the point where it is embarrassing to see you post.
Please stop.
My name says it all.
Which part of what Polly said is wrong?
rojo wrote:
I must admit when I read the initial report I thought Robert Kraft's denials seemed absurd. But having read the entire Patriots response, I think the Patriots are vinidcated.
If you are a fan of the NFL, you have to spend an hour reading the Patriots response in full. It's VERY persuasive:
http://wellsreportcontext.com/The NFL's entire report that Brady/the Pats are cheats was based on three things
1) Ignoring what pressure gauge the head referee said he used to measure the Patriot's balls pregame.
the Patriots wrote:MR. ANDERSON SPECIFICALLY RECALLS THAT HE USED THE LOGO GAUGE FOR THESE PRE-GAME MEASUREMENTS (pg. 52). (This is the only recollection of Mr. Anderson that the report rejects...... However, when assessing the Patriots footballs, the investigators reject Anderson’s best recollection that he used the Logo gauge pre-game, and instead look to the larger psi drop that is shown by the lower psi, non-Logo gauge.
If you believe the official was correct in what gauge he used, then the Patirots drop in airpressure is fully explained by the Ideal Gas Law.
and
2) Assuming sinister things based on the text messages referring to a guy as a 'deflator'. In reality, deflator is a term he clearly used in reference to his desire to lose weight. Moreover, the 'stress' the guy was talking about in one text was the fact that his family member was having memory loss and he was having trouble selling their season tickets.
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3) A belief that the Patriots/Brady didn't cooperate with the investigation. It seems to me that they did as they already had any texts Tom Brady sent the guys as they had the equipment guys phones.
Don't assume anything. Read the report here:
http://wellsreportcontext.com/Editor's note: In light of the Patriots accepting the punishment, the title of this thread has been changed from its initial title of: Terrible Tom no more. Tom Brady and the Patriots are vindicated - Wow!!
The new thread title is wholly inaccurate and you know it.
New Sense wrote:
Olive Oil wrote:There is still no evidence that he told anyone to deflate balls below 12.5psi after the referees checked the balls. To say he deserves 1 game for lying is absurd. He has denied this since the beginning and the evidence supports him.
If he deserves a suspension so does Andrew Luck who was also playing with deflated balls. Additionally, an investigation needs to be launched into the psi of Green Bay Packer footballs.
You have exposed yourself as the ultimate fan boy. It has reached the point where it is embarrassing to see you post.
Please stop.
As a Broncos fan, I'm certainly not a Patriots fan boy. Yet, I'm still waiting to see the evidence that implicates Brady. Actually, from what I've read, I've yet to see any evidence that the ball boys actually deflated the footballs after they were checked by the refs before the game. Am I missing something?
Kraft bowing down to the league does leave me a little suspicious, but it seems as though the Wells investigation would have found some concrete evidence of intentional wrong doing, yet there is none. Zip. Nada.
Regardless, the NFL created a clustef*ck by letting the media make a mountain out of a mole hill.
wish he would stop wrote:
Polly P wrote:It was on ESPN. In the best interest of the league, Kraft has reluctantly accepted the punishment against his team.
My opinion: he's taking a bullet for Brady. The Brady appeal goes forward. Kraft and Goodell met on Saturday and hugged. This is part of a deal in the works to reduce Brady's suspension.
Looks like Polly A (as in Pollyanna) is wrong. I love it when liars and story twisters are proven wrong.
Proven wrong? proven?? Please direct me to the proof.
Something tells me we won't be seeing the same thread from rojo about Salazar LOL
flent wrote:
Something tells me we won't be seeing the same thread from rojo about Salazar LOL
But it just goes to show you that Rojo is not so stubborn that he cannot change his opinion when new information is revealed. That won't be the case with Alberto's rebuttal though, because Alberto did nothing to disprove the initial allegations.