LetsRun.com Needs to Come up With A Policy for Race Cheaters

Two easy ones from 2014 Toronto Waterfront Marathon. I will email RD on Tuesday.

Marie-Lynne Pelletier, Mont-st-hilaire

1st half: 2:30:20

Final time: 3:40

Missed every mat after halfway

Andy Gugliemli, Toronto

Missed 10k mat

1st half: 1:19:28

Really weird 5 k splits (look him up on Sportstats.ca) after that

Final time: 3:28

I think we can all agree both times are "interesting."

Can we also add to the list the triatholon-mom from a few summers ago who brought all her kids on to the course at the end for a photo shoot? Definitely a cheater.

allow me to compare it to drug use:

1) use ped's, "probably" get an advantage (almost 100% certainty, but not an absolute).

2) cut a course, without ANY shadow of a doubt, it WILL improve your time.

please explain to me why the person who cuts the course is not gone after with even more vitriol than say justin gatlin? there's no doubt in my mind that gatlin reaped benefits of his drug use, and may still- but, the course cheater, while obviously not at a world class level, is 100% certain to be reaping benefits via a form of cheating. what is the diff between that and HGH, EPO, roids, etc???

actually a serious question as some ppl seem to be of the sort to brush this under the rug

Gatlin cheating = more money

course cutter = no money

That's not the same thing wrote:

impossible problem unless RD wrote:

I found a runner in a recent flat marathon that ran a 18:31 5k split en route to a BQ of 3:12. That's the percent equivalent of a 2:10 marathoner suddenly dropping multiple sub 4:00 miles in the middle of their marathon.

The equivalent would be 3:12 marathon dropping multiple 3:50 miles in the middle.

A 3:12 marathoner doing 6:00 miles (18:31 5k split) is the equivalent of a 3:12 marathoner doing multiple 3:50 miles in the middle? Please explain. What you said makes no sense.

What you said is basically 6:00 == 3:50?

Answer this. Is a 3:12 marathoner capable of multiple 6:00 min/miles in the middle of a flat marathon?

How about just a consistent moderating policy in general. Would go a long way.

L L wrote:

Is this another thread about Elizabeth Warren?

Nicely played.

mr. obvious wrote:

How about just a consistent moderating policy in general. Would go a long way.

Why some threads are deleted and others stay up is super confusing?

I think the moderation is worse when the founding Brojos aren't around, which seems the case right now. Are they on vacation? Nothing wrong with that. Everyone deserves a vacation.

This ain't rockit surgery wrote:

Two easy ones from 2014 Toronto Waterfront Marathon. I will email RD on Tuesday.

Marie-Lynne Pelletier, Mont-st-hilaire

1st half: 2:30:20

Final time: 3:40

Missed every mat after halfway

Andy Gugliemli, Toronto

Missed 10k mat

1st half: 1:19:28

Really weird 5 k splits (look him up on Sportstats.ca) after that

Final time: 3:28

I think we can all agree both times are "interesting."

I added Guglielmi to the blog. Will add Pelletiere. Neither were BQ's. But I still think it's important to deter further cheating attempts.

Didn't find any precious race results for Guglielmi. Pelletier had a prior time of 4:26:13

The worst is when they delete a "On The Boards" thread. Ironic because "On the Boards" threads are supposedly CHOSEN by LetsRun.com staff!!! And then their own moderators delete the threads!!

Andy Gugliemli Toronto (40-44)

Sporting Life 10K 5/11/14 48:50

ScotiaBank Half 10/20/13 2:02:03

Sporting Lie 10K 5/12/13 46:06

Anyway, suspicious results should not be posted on a blog called Marathon Cheaters. You need to be 100% IMO.

Mo' Money wrote:

Gatlin cheating = more money

course cutter = no money

That is ignorant.

No one gets more money by competing with drugs, unless they are sponsored by a drug company.

In fact I think some marathons have been sponsored by drug companies.

Some websites get money for posting drug ads, and I'm in favor of those being banned.

J.R. wrote:

That is ignorant.

No one gets more money by competing with drugs, unless they are sponsored by a drug company.

Ever heard of Lance Armstrong?

LA's Money wrote:

J.R. wrote:

That is ignorant.

No one gets more money by competing with drugs, unless they are sponsored by a drug company.

Ever heard of Lance Armstrong?

Proves my point.