A Kenyan is the fastest 200m sprinter this year

Don't forget "BUFF this SCRAWNY that"

Joplas wrote:

Diet is not the issue.

Kenya is one of the hungriest countries on Earth. Diet is a huge issue, and genetics can't escape its influence.

Your development is not set by your genotype. Your genes are more like being dealt a hand of cards - tens of thousands of them - and how you develop depends on how those cards are played. Everyone has the genes necessary to adapt to most circumstances. If you grow up on a calorie-restricted diet, you'll activate whatever genes are necessary to adapt to caloric restriction in adulthood.

If this isn't obvious to you in the skinny build of many east African adults, look to the rapidly changing height of various populations. Japanese used to be shorter. European colonists in America quickly grew taller than their old-country cousins. North Koreans are two inches shorter on average than South Koreans after only two generations of separation.

I'ma keep saying it - there are so many good east African DR's because there are so many hungry east Africans.

HardLoper wrote:

poolz wrote:

Why not? Rudisha can run a 44/45. His father was a great sprinter as well. I think the Kenyans used to be highly ranked in the sprints back in the day.

Something happened and they instead got really good at distance events.

Contrary to East Africa/West Africa stereotypes, I do think there is a lot of talent for sprinting (and other sports) in Kenya, and besides, many tribes do trace their roots to West Africa. I guess they already have a javelin thrower and a linebacker with exceptional speed for his size.

The great majority of Kenyans, in fact, came out of West Africa during the Bantu expansion(s)..

You are a tad ignorant. With regard to hunger, reports for hunger typically emanate from the Northern part of Kenya which is sparsely populated , desert or semi desert.

Kenyans in cities do not have the kind of hunger problems you describe above. In fact there is now an emerging obesity problem among many urban Kenyans.

Your post about skinny East Africans is a typical ignorant post from a person whose worldview is shaped by what he sees on the track and in road races. Read the posts of other knowledgeable people here. In fact most East Africans are not skinny. Its a diverse place with well over 200 ethnic groups each with different characteristics.

Diet is not what is holding back Kenyan sprinters. It is the lack of facilities, lack of funding, lack of good coaching and lack of incentive.

200 METERS

200 20.14 Carvin Nkanata (Kenya)

20.17(A) Pako Seribe (Botswana) Molepolole 02/22

20.19i *Trayvon Bromell (US) NCAA Ind 03/14

Julian Forte (Jamaica) Kingston 04/01

20.20 Usain Bolt (Jamaica) Kingston 04/11

Andre De Grasse (Canada) Florida R 04/03

20.27 *Beejay Lee (US) Florida R 04/03

Brendon Rodney (Canada) Florida R 04/03

(A) Akani Simbine (South Africa) Pretoria 03/20

20.31 *Dedric Dukes (US) Florida R 04/03

20.33(A) José Carlos Herrera (Mexico) Mexico City 03/29

like leading marathon at mile1 wrote:

200 METERS

200 20.14 Carvin Nkanata (Kenya)

20.17(A) Pako Seribe (Botswana) Molepolole 02/22

20.19i *Trayvon Bromell (US) NCAA Ind 03/14

Julian Forte (Jamaica) Kingston 04/01

20.20 Usain Bolt (Jamaica) Kingston 04/11

Andre De Grasse (Canada) Florida R 04/03

20.27 *Beejay Lee (US) Florida R 04/03

Brendon Rodney (Canada) Florida R 04/03

(A) Akani Simbine (South Africa) Pretoria 03/20

20.31 *Dedric Dukes (US) Florida R 04/03

20.33(A) José Carlos Herrera (Mexico) Mexico City 03/29

20.39 Anaso Jobodwana RSA Tempe 04/11

20.14 was 13th on the yearly list last year

I personally timed a 200M race on 4/11/15 at University of Tampa where Justin Gatlin ran 20.10. Unfortunately we had a +2.1 wind...

http://elitetiming.net/university-of-tampa-ryan-mccall-invite-2015/

yyy wrote:

English is my third language so I have to ask what "BUFF" means.

Thanks.

Poster is g@y

Actually would be ok if he was its just weird for a straight guy to talk about another guy like this. Stud, buff what is wrong with you lot!

byedaweigh wrote:

20.14 was 13th on the yearly list last year

Nkanata will likely finish among the top 10 or 15 runners in the 200m this year. I am not sure the last time a Kenyan has ever finished within the top lists in any given year at either 100m or 200m. You may have to go back to 1975 to find one. Or maybe even as far back as the 1960s with Seraphino Antao.

Did a google search for "Kenyan sprinters"

Ha ha ha, I love it. The East Africans come over to the U.S. to gain citizenship and end up snaking the American distance records, an American goes over to Kenya and ends snaking their sprint records. The irony is beautiful, I can't stop laughing.

Please let this guy pull a Lagat and break the Kenyan 60m, 100m, 400m etc. records.

Interesting that whites eat same diet but can't seem to produce any sprinters.

'68&'72 Olympian Julius Sang better known as a quarter miler ran for North Central Carolina and has these PRs

100 – 10.3 (1968); 200 – 20.3y (1969); 400 – 44.92 (1972).

Daniel Rudisha father of David ran 44.x leg on the '68 OG silver team and I'm sure he had decent 200 marks.

Shwartzehonky wrote:

Interesting that whites eat same diet but can't seem to produce any sprinters.

Actually, they're probably both about the same sprinting-wise, just that the blacks dope like crazy. No one other than that white French guy would be under 10 sec without doping...

And because you said it, it must be true of course.

Ran and stared for Pitt/University of Pittsburgh.

Joplas wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Kenya is one of the hungriest countries on Earth.

You are a tad ignorant. With regard to hunger, reports for hunger typically emanate from the Northern part of Kenya which is sparsely populated , desert or semi desert.

United States 3770

Kenya 2060

Ethiopia 1950

Eritirea 1590

All the horn countries are in the bottom 15. Eritrea is dead last.

Apology accepted in advance.

Well this could have actually been an interesting thread....

Fell victim to the classic LRC bs unfourtunatly

Bad Wigins wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_food_energy_intake

United States 3770

Kenya 2060

Ethiopia 1950

Eritirea 1590

All the horn countries are in the bottom 15. Eritrea is dead last.

Apology accepted in advance.

Why would I apologize when you are providing more proof of your ignorance?

Low Caloric intake does not translate to hunger. Much depends on what kinds of food are consumed. In Kenya, the most consumed food is Ugali.

One serving of ugali has only 177 calories:

The food most consumed with Ugali is collard greens. One serving of collard greens has only 49 calories.:

That adds up to approx 230 calories per meal. Thats why Kenya has a much lower caloric intake. Thats why countries that are much poorer than Kenya like Malawi are consuming more calories

Ugali though low in calories is actually very filling which means people eat fewer meals. that contributes further to the low caloric intake. The fact that it is so filling is precisely why it is the most often consumed food. Not to mention the fact that most people eat food straight from farms that has no processing. And Ugali is indeed the staple food, meaning many Kenyan families consume it several times a week.

Thirdly , the areas of Kenya where athletics is popular are actually the most agriculturally productive. People grow up eating fresh fruit, milk straight from cows, fresh veggies etc. Starvation is usually in Nortthern Kenya.

Finally starvation is not a permanent situation. It is cyclical. An area that faces starvation in one year due to drought can produce a agricultural surplus the next year. This fact alone makes your conclusion based on that wikipedia page you posted bogus