I like the Cliftons for long runs and even daily training but they're quality control is abysmal. One pair I've gotten 700 miles and the shoe is still decent, another pair (exact same model/year) is completely different in fit and the uppers are shredded to the point I've had to stick duct tape inside them to try and salvage some more running, after about 300 miles. I won't be buying any more Hokas.