Danny Mercado Sighting OT Marathon Qualifier

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  • dols401
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    5 years ago 02/28/2015 12:11pm CST
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    Danny Mercado won the Phoenix Half Marathon this morning in 1:04:59 with a 29:24 last 10k to sneak under the 65 and qualify.

    http://phx.onlineraceresults.com/results/phx_half_2015.txt

    hoenix Marathon 2015 - HALF-MARATHON

    Place Div/Tot Div No. Name 6.9mi Pace Rank Last10k Pace Rank Time Pace
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    1 1/133 M 25-29 6369 Danny Mercado 0:35:35 5:10 1 0:29:24 4:45 1 1:04:59 4:58
    2 2/133 M 25-29 3565 Andrew Benford 0:35:38 5:10 2 0:31:47 5:08 2 1:07:24 5:09
    3 3/133 M 25-29 6115 Xavier Rodriguez 0:37:15 5:24 4 0:31:49 5:08 3 1:09:04 5:17
    4 4/133 M 25-29 5539 Alejandro Troncoso 0:37:15 5:24 3 0:31:51 5:09 4 1:09:05 5:17
    5 1/162 M 30-34 5077 Jake Krong 0:37:20 5:25 5 0:32:26 5:14 5 1:09:46 5:20
    6 2/162 M 30-34 6891 Denzel Ramirez 0:37:43 5:28 6 0:33:36 5:26 7 1:11:19 5:27
    7 5/133 M 25-29 5262 Ruairi Moynihan 0:39:15 5:42 7 0:33:16 5:22 6 1:12:30 5:33
  • A_latino_Duck
    5 years ago 02/28/2015 12:33pm CST
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    Viva la Raza. Go Ducks!
  • Ok Dude
    5 years ago 02/28/2015 4:51pm CST
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    Neat
  • Milling Miler
    5 years ago 02/28/2015 6:40pm CST
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    Cool. It's good to see another Duck running years after college. Oregon must have dozens of post-collegiate kids still running after graduation. It's good to see kids not getting burned out at college, but instead to still love the sport enough to continue on.
  • just curious bruh
    5 years ago 02/28/2015 7:30pm CST
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    are those splits legit? why would he run 5:10s for the first part of the race and then drop 4:45s to close the last 10K? why not just run even 4:50-4:55 miles and come in well under the standard?

    either way, good work & congrats!
  • Pringles
    5 years ago 02/28/2015 7:43pm CST
    re: dols401
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    Was he just below the fine line of being sponsored by Nike or maybe even Brooks? He ran right up there in college with guys who are running for Nike now.
  • Pringles
    5 years ago 02/28/2015 7:46pm CST
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    His linkedin says he is manager in training at a burger joint. How much faster did he have to run to run for a living?
  • Mooremann
    5 years ago 02/28/2015 8:05pm CST
    re: just curious bruh
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    The timing mat was supposed to be at 6.9 miles, but it was actually about a quarter mile later. So add about a minute to the last 10k splits. He ran it pretty even.
  • Just askin
    5 years ago 03/01/2015 12:03am CST
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    I have a question, and not trying to put down Mercado, I'm just asking for my own reference, is that course legal for qualifying for the Trials? The race website says it has "nearly 350 feet of net elevation loss", but for USATF standards, they say maximum allowed elevation loss is 3.25m/km (350ft would be 5.06m/km). 5.06 is way over 3.25.

    I've been told the 3.25 number exists only to allow the Boston Marathon to count because Boston has 3.47m/km elevation loss.

    Or am I converting my English and metric standards incorrectly?

    Race site: http://thephoenixmarathon.com/plan-your-race/half-marathon/

    USATF: http://www.usatf.org/Sports/Road-Running/OlympicTeamTrials/2016QualifyingStandards.aspx
  • Skin of his teeth
    5 years ago 03/01/2015 2:41pm CST
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    Wow that's cutting it close. Had to be booking it at the end.
  • not a rule follower
    5 years ago 03/01/2015 2:52pm CST
    re: Just askin
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    I recall looking up this very info and it is actually quite generous, but still only calcs out to about 225ft of allowable drop. (3.25m/km) X (21.1km) X 3.28ft/m) = ~225, so yes, you are correct.

    very generous, but likely this did not count. nonetheless, no reason danny can't go to something like RnR san jose or las vegas and nail a sub 65 without much problem, he's a talented young man.
  • bad as naomi russell
    5 years ago 03/01/2015 3:03pm CST
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    all certified course info is on the USATF website. below is a link to all the courses in Arizona. drop for this course is 2.28m/km according to list. so not a record-eligible course, but OK for trials qualifying is the way i understand it?

    http://www.usatf.org/events/courses/search/searchResults.asp?embed=&courseID=&distance=&distanceUnits=&distanceComparison=&city=&state=AZ&courseName=&courseStatus=A&courseType=R&drop=&dropComparison=&separation=&separationComparison=&certificationYear=&lastName=&format=view&submit=Search

    i actually didn't know that a drop of 3.25m/km was allowed for trials qualifiers, i just figured only record-eligible course were considered legit (1.0m/km or less). damn.
  • PHX course
    5 years ago 03/01/2015 4:21pm CST
    re: bad as naomi russell
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    It's drops about 160 feet from start to finish. Not sure why the website says 350. Danny's run was really solid, into a headwind for a good portion of it.
  • messi
    5 years ago 03/01/2015 5:48pm CST
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    Pringles wrote:

    His linkedin says he is manager in training at a burger joint. How much faster did he have to run to run for a living?

    Still up in Flagstaff being coached by Greg McMillen.
    Why didn't he run PF Chang's 1/2 'thon a month ago, when he would probably have beaten Ryan Hall based on this performance.
  • Just askin
    5 years ago 03/02/2015 12:05am CST
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    bad as naomi russell wrote:

    all certified course info is on the USATF website. below is a link to all the courses in Arizona. drop for this course is 2.28m/km according to list. so not a record-eligible course, but OK for trials qualifying is the way i understand it?

    http://www.usatf.org/events/courses/search/searchResults.asp?embed=&courseID=&distance=&distanceUnits=&distanceComparison=&city=&state=AZ&courseName=&courseStatus=A&courseType=R&drop=&dropComparison=&separation=&separationComparison=&certificationYear=&lastName=&format=view&submit=Search

    i actually didn't know that a drop of 3.25m/km was allowed for trials qualifiers, i just figured only record-eligible course were considered legit (1.0m/km or less). damn.

    Thanks for the link. I didn't know you could look up all that info for each race right on USATF's site, good to know.

    Maybe the race website meant 350ft for the marathon (although it specifically said half), or maybe they're just exaggerating to attract people who are scared of the half marathon.

    I wish I had known this though. I was looking for a half to do a while back and ruled this one out because of the elevation drop (not that I was going for the trials standard, but I wanted to a legit PR and 350ft would not be legit). But if this one is eligible for the trials, I'd count it.
  • dols401
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    5 years ago 03/02/2015 12:30pm CST
    re: Just askin
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    Sorry different course than the one last year. It was OT qualifying legit last year. My bad
  • stick with eharmony
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    5 years ago 03/02/2015 12:36pm CST
    re: dols401
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    That's great, nobody cares.

    Thanks
  • somebody who cares.
    5 years ago 03/02/2015 1:38pm CST
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    thanks for posting, as I actually was following this thread with some interest.
  • Same Course
    5 years ago 03/02/2015 4:06pm CST
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    It was the same exact course as 2014. I would guess they exaggerate the elevation drop to attract runners from Utah who are used to downhill courses. They do the same thing with the full 'thon. It drops 800 feet, but the website says "close to 1000"
  • Just askin
    5 years ago 03/02/2015 8:39pm CST
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    Same Course wrote:

    It was the same exact course as 2014. I would guess they exaggerate the elevation drop to attract runners from Utah who are used to downhill courses. They do the same thing with the full 'thon. It drops 800 feet, but the website says "close to 1000"

    800 feet?!? That has to be worth minutes off your time.