Fox News' Bill O'Reilly getting called out for fabricating stories, ala Brian Williams!

Centrist wrote:

This is really funny. Each side claims to have all of the facts and are in the right. It's all well and good to have your own opinions-that's part of what America is-but to unequivocally state that the other side doesn't know what they are talking about without even LISTENING to what they are saying is absurd. The name calling in this country has gotten out of hand. No wonder why this country has become the laughing stock of the world. The real truth could have factually written down and disseminated but we probably will never know because of all the egos.

If this country has become the "laughing stock of the world" then what is the rest of the world? I'll take this laughing-stock before I'll take any others - any others - that includes your precious northern european countries that are beginning to reap what they have sown.

You're an idiot. You're repeating the same false story coming from Corn as proof that Corns's story are true. Corn has already been proven to have fabricated a phony story.

OReilly has already proved that he was in a combat situation in Buenos Aires once the Falklands war was concluded. OReilly had NEVER said he was IN the Falklands as Corn keeps claiming.

Bill is good here. Liberal scum, keep digging.

Looks like a subtle bending of the truth in an attempt to impress/gain credibility...not quite as extreme as Brian Williams but disengenuous for sure. Pretty doubtful Fox will do anything about it, though.

exthrower wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

People, these are the lies O'Reilly told:

In his 2001 book, The No Spin Zone: Confrontations With the Powerful and Famous in America, O’Reilly stated, “You know that I am not easily shocked. I’ve reported ON THE GROUND IN ACTIVE WAR zones from El Salvador to the FALKLANDS.”

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Argentina was at war with Britain...O'Reilly was in Argentina....That's a war zone....[/quote]

If that's true than as a kid I was on the ground in an active war zone when we were at war with Vietnam. I guess that's why I'm not easily shocked either!

exthrower wrote:]

Argentina was at war with Britain...O'Reilly was in Argentina....That's a war zone....

I don't understand how anyone can be ^this^ stupid.

This US has been at war the last 15 years. I'm in the U.S. ... Ergo ...?

So you are saying that O'Reilly didn't write this:In his 2001 book, "You know that I am not easily shocked. Ive reported ON THE GROUND IN ACTIVE WAR zones from El Salvador to the FALKLANDS"Corn lied about that? Is that your take on this?Read more: http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6343339&page=2#ixzz3SPaL8R00

Black Knight wrote:

You're an idiot. You're repeating the same false story coming from Corn as proof that Corns's story are true. Corn has already been proven to have fabricated a phony story.

OReilly has already proved that he was in a combat situation in Buenos Aires once the Falklands war was concluded. OReilly had NEVER said he was IN the Falklands as Corn keeps claiming.

Wtfunny wrote:

exthrower wrote:]

Argentina was at war with Britain...O'Reilly was in Argentina....That's a war zone....

I don't understand how anyone can be ^this^ stupid.

This US has been at war the last 15 years. I'm in the U.S. ... Ergo ...?

exthrow,

Come on back and admit what you wrote was just plain dumb. Or you have to agree that every person in Argentina (and Britain) at the time were in the same war zone as O'Reilly.

Conundrum wrote:

So you are saying that O'Reilly didn't write this:

In his 2001 book, "You know that I am not easily shocked. Ive reported ON THE GROUND IN ACTIVE WAR zones from El Salvador to the FALKLANDS"

Corn lied about that? Is that your take on this?

es, corn lied about what he wrote. That has already been established. Corn was beaten down by OReilly last night on national TV and hasn't resurfaced. Nothing but crickets except for jerks like yourself who ignore the truth. This is exactly what Marxists count on = tell the big lie and repeat it enough so that even when exposed fools will continue to repeat it.

Hi, I'm Bill O'Reilly ... thanks for watching us tonight ... more proof the American media is corrupt.

That is the subject of this evening's Talking Points memo.

This man ... 56-year-old David Corn ... who works for the far left magazine ... Mother Jones ... smeared me, your humble correspondent, yesterday ... saying I had fabricated some war reporting.

Mother Jones ... which has low circulation ... considered by many the bottom rung of journalism in America. however ... in this Internet age ... the defamation they put forth ... gets exposure.

and so I have to deal with this garbage tonight. I’m sorry.

basically David Corn ... a liar ... says that I exaggerated situations in the Falklands War ... and Salvadoran War.

Here's the truth ... everything I’ve said about my reportorial career ... everything ... is true. 33-years ago in June ... Argentina surrendered to Great Britain ... ending the Falklands War.

I was covering the conflict from Argentina and Uruguay for CBS News.

After learning of the surrender ... angry mobs in Buenos Aires ... stormed the presidential palace ... the Casa Rosada ... trying to overthrow the government of General Leopoldo Galtieri.

I was there on the street ... with my camera crews. The violence was horrific. ... as Argentine soldiers ... fired into the crowd ... who were responding with violent acts of their own.

My video of the combat ... led the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather that evening. and later on ... I filed a report ... that ran nationwide.

That's what happened.

I never said I was on the Falkland Islands ... as Corn purports ... I said I covered the Falklands War ... which I did.

Now ... in what I consider to be a miracle ... I found this CBS internal memo from 33 years ago ... praising my coverage that day. The cable was sent to the CBS bureau chief in Buenos Aires ... by the news desk here in New York City:

"Doyle, O'Reilly didn't have the time last night but would like to say many thanks for the riot piece last night. WCBS-TV and WCAU-TV both took the entire piece, instead of stripping it for pix. They called to say thanks for a fine piece.”

"Thanks again. Your piece made the late feed, a winner last night."

Want more? ... here it is:

Shortly after my crew and I ... escaped grave danger on the streets of Buenos Aires ... I wrote to CBS News boss Ed Joyce ... praising the crew’s bravery.

I have the letter:

"The crews were great … the riot had been very bad, we were gassed, shot at, and I had the best vantage point in which to report the story."

So we have rock solid proof ... that David Corn ... smeared me ... and some websites that picked up his defamation ... did as well.

Now ... I had to spend hours last night ... on the phone with various reporters ... and crawling around my basement covered with dust to find documents from 33 years ago. Again, it was a miracle I found them. all because an irresponsible ... guttersnipe ... a far left zealot ... who has attacked Fox News many times before ... spit this stuff out on the net. and you know what? ... nothing is gonning to happen to David Corn.

Mother Jones and the far left websites ...couldn't care less about the truth. They are in business to injure. This is a political hit job.

At this point ... TV coverage has been scant, but CNN tried to exploit the situation because a guy over there named Brian Stelter ... is another far left zealot ... masquerading as a journalist. CNN can do a lot better than this guy. Real journalists ... knew this story was B-S from the jump.

They knew Corn was trying to take the Brian Williams situation ... and wrap it around my neck ... for ideological reasons ... because he has a history of attacking Fox News. In addition ... Corn actually wrote that I hammered Brian Williams ... when everyone knows ... I went out of my way on Kimmel and the Factor ... to be compassionate to the man.

Corn must think the folks ... are as dumb ... as he is.

The whole scandal ... reminds me of another guy who got completely away with it. That man is Al Franken ... who years ago ... accused me of faking my working class upbringing. He actually said in public many times ... I was not raised in Levittown ... he ran around telling that to the media ... who gleefully printed his words.

The despicable Franken ... perhaps the biggest liar I have ever known ... wouldn't even retract it when I produced this: The deed to my parent's house ... it says Levittown, Al ... but you, a dishonest smear merchant ... wouldn't retract your false story.

And I'm sure Corn won't either. and what happened to Al Franken?

He was elected a senator from Minnesota.

And that's the memo ...

exthrower wrote:

One of the definitions in Websters is...."an area of extreme violence"...another of their definitions is "a region where a war is taking place"....Both of these would probably apply here...

^This^ is an example of the very same linguistic gymnastics O'Reilly and the Fox Noise fans are engaging trying to pretend that he didn't do exactly what they're just sh** all over themselves about Brian W doing.

O'Reilly wasn't on the ground in the Falklands. He wasn't anywhere near a war zone, any more than me living in Alaska (most violent state in the nation, baby!) is living in a war zone.

People, all kinds of people, do precisely what O'Reilly and Williams did/do. Journalists are supposed to refrain from doing that.

Pretending O'Reilly isn't a "news guy" is just as silly as pretending his claims aren't bullish**. The entire channel is dedicated, by construct, to "news". Hiding behind the mantel of "his show is an opinion piece" is simply to misunderstand (completely) the role of the editorial in news media.

Sister Jones wrote:

….. Corn was beaten down by OReilly last night on national TV and hasn't resurfaced. ... ...

That was a "beat down"?

O'Reilly wasn't on the grounding the Falklands War. Even being in a riot in Buenos Aires isn't being on the ground in the Falklands War. producing a memo that says "you did good work" doesn't validate his misrepresentation of that work later on in his book.

" This is a political hit job."?

That's bizarre .. he's not a politician, he's a TV show host on Fox News (though many others of whom seem to actually be, or have been, politicians) .. but to call this a "political hit job" is him simply doing the exact same thing he's been accused of doing.

There is much that you copied. It would be easier to address if you boiled down your response to the essence of the disagreement. Cut out the usual O'Reilly type attacks and only address the questions of whether Bill lied about being on the ground in an active war in the Falklands. Did he or did he not write the statement I listed above? Is your point that he was just imprecise or did he purposely mislead?

I mean clearly he wasn't on the ground in the active war zone of the Falklands. His statement at best is very misleading. Again this is WHAT HE WROTE:

"You know that I am not easily shocked. Ive reported ON THE GROUND IN ACTIVE WAR zones from El Salvador to the FALKLANDS"

^this. Read what O'Reilly wrote and then read the transcript of what he said. He says he was in Beunos Aries when riots broke out because Argentina had surrendered effectively ENDING the war. Yes there were riots that occurred that were probably dangerous AFTER the war. He writes ACTIVE war zone. He is as much of a liar as that scum Brain Williams. O'Reilly should be fired and Brain Williams should not be aloud to retrurn to his job. Defending either one of these fools likely means you're a partisan tool.

smoke another joint son wrote:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/02/19/oreilly-blasts-disgusting-report-claiming-he-misled-viewers-about-war-reporting-bunch-of-lies/

There is nothing even remotely similar between the two cases, or even Hillary Clintons whoppers. OReilly said he reported from a war zone. Fact.Williams and Clinton repeatedly fabricated tall tales of specific intances of being shot at. Theyve repeated and embellished on their talees over time.

Mother Jones? MSNBC? Does anyone take them seriously?

Mother Jones and MSNBC are left wing versions of Fox.

To be fair, Fox does have the guy that fabricated specific tales of being shot as well. Geraldo Rivera is on Fox all the time, and he actually FAKED FOOTAGE of being shot at. Which is worse.That man shouldnt be allowed to work anywhere near journalism ever.

But seriously, they are just grasping if they grabbed this from "i have covered wars all over on the ground from El Salvador to the Faulklands."...really isn't the same thing as Brian Williams.

Well, at least one of his colleagues from the event in Argentina disagree with O'Reilly's version of the situation:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/oreilly-mocked-on-facebook-by-former-colleague-for-covering-war-from-expense-account-zone/

"We — meaning the American networks — were all in the same, modern hotel and we never saw any troops, casualties or weapons. It was not a war zone or even close. It was an ‘expense account zone."

And

"According to Engberg, the closest O’Reilly got to any conflicts were protests in the streets near Argentina’s Presidential Palace, which Enberg described as “Mostly chanting, fist-shaking and throwing coins at the uniformed soldiers who were assembled outside the palace.”

Wtfunny wrote:

Well, at least one of his colleagues from the event in Argentina disagree with O'Reilly's version of the situation:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/oreilly-mocked-on-facebook-by-former-colleague-for-covering-war-from-expense-account-zone/

"We — meaning the American networks — were all in the same, modern hotel and we never saw any troops, casualties or weapons. It was not a war zone or even close. It was an ‘expense account zone."

And

"According to Engberg, the closest O’Reilly got to any conflicts were protests in the streets near Argentina’s Presidential Palace, which Enberg described as “Mostly chanting, fist-shaking and throwing coins at the uniformed soldiers who were assembled outside the palace.”

Guess what happened when O'Reilly invited him on the show to openly discuss this.

Wtfunny wrote:

exthrower wrote:]

Argentina was at war with Britain...O'Reilly was in Argentina....That's a war zone....

I don't understand how anyone can be ^this^ stupid.

This US has been at war the last 15 years. I'm in the U.S. ... Ergo ...?

I guess 9/11 never happened?

Twin Towers wrote:

Wtfunny wrote:

I don't understand how anyone can be ^this^ stupid.

This US has been at war the last 15 years. I'm in the U.S. ... Ergo ...?

I guess 9/11 never happened?

Touche!

No, he really didn't. Two towers helped his point if anything.