Phelps has claimed to consume 5000 calories a day. Thats probably high, but I could see how a top athlete, even an idiot like phelps could close to that.
Phelps has claimed to consume 5000 calories a day. Thats probably high, but I could see how a top athlete, even an idiot like phelps could close to that.
8000/day.
Could you imagine how terrible it would be to take a sh*t after eating 8-10,000 calories per day Seriously. It would either be the size of my leg, or about 30 "mini" poops throughout the day.
yes, really.... wrote:
full of crap too
Literally! Actually, though, two sports where it could happen are nordic skiiing and swimming -- both in terms of the hours & energy spent, and also ramping up metabolism (water immersion and cold weather).
I don't think it's that far of a stretch -- these guys really do go hard for hours, and also the more you eat the less efficiently your body processes the food. And Hamilton is built more like a swimmer than a runner in terms of muscle mass.
Ryan Lochte:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2710814/What-does-10-000-calories-look-like-Former-fast-food-addict-Ryan-Lochte-shares-picture-Olympic-swimmers-diet.htmlSample diet:
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/olympian-diet-6-000-10-000-calories-day-plenty-rich-complex-carbohydrates-lean-proteins-article-1.1098474Arnold Schwarznegger's 80,500 calorie sandwich
I thought that article would simply total up the calories (which it did not) of Phelps's sample diet and show them to be less than 10,000. In fact, that diet adds up to at least 10,000 calories, and all the article claims is that it would be ridiculous and stupid to eat a diet like that, especially having that big a breakfast, rather than spacing it out in smaller meals. So, I see no evidence that he didn't eat that many calories.
A 4,000 calorie breakfast is huge, but when I was injured in college and not running, I would usually eat 6 chili and cheese dogs with kraut and ketchup and mustard, along with a few cokes, which amounts to around 2700 calories, and I would have eaten more but the doghouse would close about fifteen minutes after I'd get up. And I was not gaining weight in that year. I'd eat a lot more at dinner and breakfast, if I got up.
no way wrote:
http://www.outsideonline.com/fitness/skiing/nordic-ski-like-Simi-Hamilton.html10,000. Thats over 90 bananas for all you letsrunners. Is he for real?
Yes, this is absolutely possible. Although I never counted my calories, but after the track season, to put on weight for football, I would eat close to 10,000 calories a day. I would put on 15-20 pounds 2.5 months. Twice a day, I drank a big glass of this powdered protein drink, which I added whole milk, an egg and a banana. Sometimes I would also added peanut butter, honey or any other high calorie food I had available.The drink with nothing in it was 800 calories. I estimate this concoction was at least 1500 calories and in addition I ate like a pig. On second thought, I wasn't eating 10,000, probably more like 7 to 8,000, but it's probably not difficult for a person to add a couple thousand more calories.
First off, stop comparing nordic skiers to runners. They are different beasts.
I also love that those using numbers of course pick the smallest ones to prove their case.
Base metabolism of 1500 and 700 calories burned per hour.
Elite nordic skiers are easily burning over 1200 cal /hour. I mean running does that at 6min miles, Nordic skiing recruits way more muscle mass and like swimming and cycling you can do a lot more of it without breaking down.
Plus ones base metabolism is going to be much higher than 1500 given the sheer amount of exercise/strength training etc. You burn more while you are working out and you burn more while you are recovering/rebuilding.
I remember talking to a coach at the olympic training center way back in the 90s, he said eating was a huge issue for athletes as they would get sick of eating. Some of them would add a big milkshake once nutritional needs were met as that was a much easier way to get an extra 2000 calories in. So yes, the athletes felt like they were always eating and got quite tired of it.
That all said 10k calories a day is on the high side, 8k though I'm sure is very doable by elite nordic skiers in peak training.
um yes wrote:
First off, stop comparing nordic skiers to runners. They are different beasts.
I also love that those using numbers of course pick the smallest ones to prove their case.
Base metabolism of 1500 and 700 calories burned per hour.
Elite nordic skiers are easily burning over 1200 cal /hour. I mean running does that at 6min miles, Nordic skiing recruits way more muscle mass and like swimming and cycling you can do a lot more of it without breaking down.
That all said 10k calories a day is on the high side, 8k though I'm sure is very doable by elite nordic skiers in peak training.
Using 700 /hour was fair, because it then makes it somewhat believable that they could maintain that pace for a prolonged amount of time needed to burn that many calories. At 1200 cal/hour? How much glycogen do you think they can store? they aren't burning pure fat at that exercise rate. If you eat 4000 calories in on meal, what do you think happens to it? It all magically becomes fuel? No, you can store maybe 2000 calories of glycogen (not from that meal). The stored glycogen will run out in less than two hours at 1200 cl/hour, what then? Lets say they have three hours of stored glycogen - they have to exercise for 6.7 hours at 1200 cal/hour. What are they using for the next 3.7 hours? What do you believe is the fastest rate they can get food ingested controverted into sugar for use by their working muscles from that great big bolus of breakfast? Lets also remember exercising will shunt blood to their muscles and away from their intestine.
Eating like that simply makes no sense unless you think food is automatically converted into fuel which is just stored in your gut like a gas tank waiting for you to use it. That's just not how the human body works. If you eat 4000 calories at once, most of it will need to be stored as fat. Why would you want that? Or if you sh!t most of it out, why would you bother eating it?
So all of you face palmers need to wind up more and punch yourself in the face for being that ignorant.
+1 to "actually was fair".
I get that most runners don't understand it, but 1200cal/hour is essentially running 5:00/mi pace for an hour. Burning 8000cal/day from 1200cal/hour pace means someone would be doing roughly 80 miles a day at 5:00/mi pace. I haven't heard of many people able to run 6:40:00 straight at 5:00 pace.
On the bike 1200cal/hour is about 333 watts for someone who isn't very efficient, or around 350 watts for someone who is more average. Nobody is doing 6:40:00 at 350 watts. Not even at Paris-Roubaix.
Skiers can't magically burn that much more calories than runners and cyclists.
Besides that, during peak training most endurance athletes appetites completely disappear and all you want to do is sleep. Eating is like a chore.
are you him wrote:
Hey Sasha, are you 'the Croc runner'?
Sorry but I do not know what a croc runner is?
I don't know, if you ate some thick oatmeal (3/2 cups - 450cal) with a healthy amount of honey, (2 tbs - 150 cal) a banana, (125 cal) and lots of walnuts mixed in (1/2 cup - 275 cal) and washed it down with a liter of whole milk (700 cal) you would eat about 1700 calories with very little volume and relatively healthy foods. It's all about caloric density
hunger pain wrote:
yes, really.... wrote:full of crap too
Literally! Actually, though, two sports where it could happen are nordic skiiing and swimming -- both in terms of the hours & energy spent, and also ramping up metabolism (water immersion and cold weather).
I don't think it's that far of a stretch -- these guys really do go hard for hours, and also the more you eat the less efficiently your body processes the food. And Hamilton is built more like a swimmer than a runner in terms of muscle mass.
Ryan Lochte:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2710814/What-does-10-000-calories-look-like-Former-fast-food-addict-Ryan-Lochte-shares-picture-Olympic-swimmers-diet.htmlSample diet:
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/olympian-diet-6-000-10-000-calories-day-plenty-rich-complex-carbohydrates-lean-proteins-article-1.1098474
^^^you nailed it
^ #facepalm
^#facepalmeth, #facepalmeth, #facepalmeth
I normally drink a quart of olive oil per day to get my calories. It's quite easy!
I know Simi well enough to say that 10,000 calories was probably hyperbole. And of course a magazine is going to run with it. This is also a guy who "swears by gummy worms after every race". But hey, maybe that's how he get's 10,000 :/ And yes, he carries a bit more extra weight than comparable skiers.
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