Not so fast, beehive boy wrote:
Conservative A-holes also told high school kids to go kill people in Vietnam,
Conservative A-holes like Lyndon Johnson?
Not so fast, beehive boy wrote:
Conservative A-holes also told high school kids to go kill people in Vietnam,
Conservative A-holes like Lyndon Johnson?
History merit badge wrote:
Not so fast, beehive boy wrote:Conservative A-holes also told high school kids to go kill people in Vietnam,
Conservative A-holes like Lyndon Johnson?
Come on guys please don't ruin this thread.
TAA wrote:
History merit badge wrote:Conservative A-holes like Lyndon Johnson?
Come on guys please don't ruin this thread.
Sorry. You're right. But as I said, it's hard not to argue with ignorance. It's a good thread, and the Scouts are worthy of admiration as a great organization for kids.
p=significant wrote:
Socially-awkward nerds, 110% of them
Unlike emaciated 5'5" distance runners? lol
TAA wrote:
History merit badge wrote:Conservative A-holes like Lyndon Johnson?
Come on guys please don't ruin this thread.
I apologize for injecting that, it is a very nice thread and I hope I don't derail it. I especially enjoyed vivarepublica's post.
Shawn H wrote:
vivalarepublica wrote:Some are overweight, conservative, a-holes that try to brainwash and control the other kids too much.
Good post except for the "conservative A-hole" part. I grew up in the conservative State of Utah and, as I said, I was also an Eagle Scout. There's nothing wrong with teaching kids that, in Reagan's words, "Government is not the solution to our problem; government IS the problem." "Conservative A-holes" teach young scouts to be more self-reliant. The Scout motto is "Be prepared." We didn't grow up believing in nanny-state entitlements and what other people "owed" us. We didn't grow up believing we were entitled to money stolen by the government from those who earned it. "Conservative A-holes" taught us that if we wanted something we should go out and work our asses off to get it. They taught us not to think of ourselves as victims of society, but rather as good citizens who had it in our power to make a difference in that society. So I'm glad for "Conservative A-holes." Other than that moronic statement, good post.
Wow. That milquetoast comment brought out that psycho of a response from you? Hey genius, he didn't say that all conservatives are a holes.
Ironic that this thread came up. My brother and I run a guide service out of Missoula, MT. We had a father/son hunting for one week with us at the beginning of elk season. The son is apparently an Eagle Scout. He knew pretty darn near close to zero when it came to the outdoors. He was essentially helpless when it came to anything regarding woodsmanship. I mentioned something to his father in a joking fashion near the end of the trip, and he just rolled his eyes. He explained to me that his "outdoor experience" had been relegated to campouts where they sat around in barracks style tents and around campfires. Though my experience with an Eagle Scout is with only one, I'd say take your son out in the woods and teach him yourself. Perhaps the program makes up in volunteer service for what it substantially lacks in outdoorsman skills. The kid looked at me like I was speaking Mandarin when I asked him to help saddle/pack the stock and tie a half hitch.
cuckoos nest wrote:
Shawn H wrote:Good post except for the "conservative A-hole" part. I grew up in the conservative State of Utah and, as I said, I was also an Eagle Scout. There's nothing wrong with teaching kids that, in Reagan's words, "Government is not the solution to our problem; government IS the problem." "Conservative A-holes" teach young scouts to be more self-reliant. The Scout motto is "Be prepared." We didn't grow up believing in nanny-state entitlements and what other people "owed" us. We didn't grow up believing we were entitled to money stolen by the government from those who earned it. "Conservative A-holes" taught us that if we wanted something we should go out and work our asses off to get it. They taught us not to think of ourselves as victims of society, but rather as good citizens who had it in our power to make a difference in that society. So I'm glad for "Conservative A-holes." Other than that moronic statement, good post.
Nothing "psycho" about the response. You apparently just didn't get it.
Wow. That milquetoast comment brought out that psycho of a response from you? Hey genius, he didn't say that all conservatives are a holes.
Oh I get it
cuckoos nest wrote:
Oh I get it
We're not talking about your sexual fantasies. And no, you obviously didn't get it or you wouldn't have posted such a dumb comment.
Shawn H wrote:
cuckoos nest wrote:Oh I get it
We're not talking about your sexual fantasies. And no, you obviously didn't get it or you wouldn't have posted such a dumb comment.
You are further proving my point.
With the John Birch politics, and the suggestive sexual talk, you must be at least a merit badge counselor-but probably an assistant scoutmaster, in charge of the camp showers.
Shawn H wrote:
cuckoos nest wrote:Oh I get it
We're not talking about your sexual fantasies. And no, you obviously didn't get it or you wouldn't have posted such a dumb comment.
I earned my Eagle Scout and had a blast doing it.
My troop was probably the greatest thing that ever existed. None of us were nerds or anything of the sort.
We simply liked going to scout camp for the boating, football, fishing, shooting, pranking, and throwing of certain lazy members of the troop into the lake when they won't get out of bed.
A nice side effect of that was getting a lot of merit badges once a year. I didn't mention this earlier, but it was an LDS troop, so when the troop got together (every Tuesday the youth get together) it wasn't based around scouts every time. The majority of the time we would just go out and play basketball. If you played it right (which most of us did) we could get our Eagle Scouts while having tons of fun.
In the few times I've visited other troops, though, I did find them to be really, really nerdy. When the structure of the group is strictly for scouting, that's what you end up with.
A few I visited had some weird rituals and things for every meeting and Court of Honor. I was pretty glad I wasn't involved with those ones.
Man this got me thinking. I had so much fun at scout camps.
We had a group that went every year until we were all too old to go anymore. Which could get a little awkward, because as you get older you realize how it is typically just a bunch of little new boy scouts that go to scout camp before they start to drop like flies.
Anyways, every year I went, we would ALMOST get kicked out.
For example this one year, it was the first day at camp. We had set up and decided we wanted to take a look around to see what we could find. We ended up at these sweet waterfalls with tubs at the bottom (really nice for swimming). And a few of us started climbing up them. Admittedly not the brightest idea, but they weren't very big waterfalls at all. Anyways, not too soon after we had gotten there, a member of the camp staff somehow found us. Apparently we had stepped over a fence (a rope that had long since fallen and been covered by dirt) that we weren't supposed to go past. And it just so happened that the falls we were climbing on were the ones the camp was named after.
Oops.
iRunfastXC wrote:
I earned my Eagle Scout and had a blast doing it.
My troop was probably the greatest thing that ever existed. None of us were nerds or anything of the sort.
We simply liked going to scout camp for the boating, football, fishing, shooting, pranking, and throwing of certain lazy members of the troop into the lake when they won't get out of bed.
A nice side effect of that was getting a lot of merit badges once a year. I didn't mention this earlier, but it was an LDS troop, so when the troop got together (every Tuesday the youth get together) it wasn't based around scouts every time. The majority of the time we would just go out and play basketball. If you played it right (which most of us did) we could get our Eagle Scouts while having tons of fun.
In the few times I've visited other troops, though, I did find them to be really, really nerdy. When the structure of the group is strictly for scouting, that's what you end up with.
A few I visited had some weird rituals and things for every meeting and Court of Honor. I was pretty glad I wasn't involved with those ones.
That's pretty much how ours was, too. Also LDS (Mormon). Summer camps were great, and we also played a lot of basketball rather than spending too much time tying knots. When we weren't camping, we usually just talked a little bit about merit badges and then had a good time.