Hillary is NUTS - businesses don't create jobs?

Crickets from all the LRC Hillary & Democrat supporters.

[quote]Originator wrote:

Businesses create the products that the public doesn't even know they want yet. No one was demanding an iPhone when Jobs unveiled it. Now millions HAVE to have one. And since record numbers of people are buying them, there doesn't appear to be a demand issue at this point.

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Aren't those made overseas?

We need jobs made here!

Before the Industrial Revolution, nearly every able-bodied adult had a "job" - as a farmer, tradesperson, slave, etc. In the 19th century most people still had jobs but an increasing number couldn't cut it in modern society and ended up in almshouses or mental institutions. Cut ahead to modern society, and we have more technology and corporations than ever and yet a far lower employment rate. Corporations haven't really created jobs, they've only improved our living standards.

As another example, think about what happens when you give an already profitable company a tax break. Do they simply use that money to hire someone? Of course not, that would be stupid. A company is only going to hire someone if that extra person will enable them to make even more profit. Any company using profits to hire more people "just because" will soon be in the red.

Tax breaks given to corporations will always end up the in the pockets of the owners and shareholders (i.e. the rich), always. Some of this money will be used to outbid other rich people for paintings and penthouses, while the rest will be used to lobby politicians for more tax breaks.

Oh, and one more thing: government most definitely doesn't create jobs. I love when politician boast about all the jobs they're going to somehow magically create from thin air (I'm looking at you, Chris Christie). What government can do is provide the infrastructure, educational system, legal system, etc. that allows for private companies to thrive. But there won't be any long run net improvement in the employment rate, just an improvement in our living standards.

Mr. Cynic wrote:

Before the Industrial Revolution, nearly every able-bodied adult had a "job" - as a farmer, tradesperson, slave, etc. In the 19th century most people still had jobs but an increasing number couldn't cut it in modern society and ended up in almshouses or mental institutions. Cut ahead to modern society, and we have more technology and corporations than ever and yet a far lower employment rate. Corporations haven't really created jobs, they've only improved our living standards.

Thanks for the nonsense.

Before the Industrial Revolution in Britain, where it all started, most people farmed their own or common land.

The impetus behind the Industrial Revolution was the various Enclosure of Land Acts which allowed landowners to raise rents, starving people off the land and forcing them in to cities.

The Industrial Revolution was fueled by immigration of course.

Historian wrote:

Thanks for the nonsense.

Before the Industrial Revolution in Britain, where it all started, most people farmed their own or common land.

The impetus behind the Industrial Revolution was the various Enclosure of Land Acts which allowed landowners to raise rents, starving people off the land and forcing them in to cities.

The Industrial Revolution was fueled by immigration of course.

Speaking of nonsense...

Not sure what the point of your post was. It does seem like you're arguing that some job creators decided to start the Industrial Revolution because there were suddenly all these peasants in need of jobs. Correct?

Holy dog sheet wrote:

Crickets from all the LRC Hillary & Democrat supporters.

Sounds like it. They must have realized how retarded this whole thread is and called it a day.