2nd Ebola Nurse Diagnosed, name Amber Vison, flew on plane day of symptoms

Anyone here think its a hoax? Thats a tough pill for me to swallow but it sure would be nice! (I think)

She wasn't craped, spit or blead on.

R2D3 wrote:

Providing she didn't crap, spit, or bleed on them they should be fine.

Field Good wrote:

Hutry wrote:

She was not symptomatic during her flight, so there should be no problem there.

Maybe, maybe not. She had a temperature of 99.5 degrees before she got on the flight. But since it was below the 100.4 "CDC threshold" she decided to get on the plane anyway. So, in fact, she was just beginning to exhibit symptoms before she even got on the plane. This woman is a complete idiot. She knew she had contact with an Ebola victim, flew to Cleveland for long weekend despite being in the 21 day quarantine period, and boarded a return flight home with an elevated temperature. And she's a friggen nurse !

But hey, she had to go home to Ohio to help with wedding planning - see

. And what's a low-grade fever among friends?

Glad to see the CDC has now figured out they should take a more active role in addressing Ebola in the US. Ya think?

Unfortunately, Ms. Vinson doesn't seem to be doing so well and is being flown to Atlanta for further treatment.

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blindness wrote:

they have wrote:

Then check everyone's passport. If they have been in Ebola stricken areas, require them to be quarantined until it is clear they do not have Ebola. If you have been in those areas, no reason a quarantine isn't a reasonable requirement. Duncan would never have flown into the U.S. if that rule had been in place.

How would checking passports prevent people from flying in from the state of Texas? The same would apply to any city on the planet visited by a person from western Africa. Is it not obvious how costly and disruptive this idea would be for so little gain? The regulatory effect on private business would be in the $$billions.

If you check an individual's passport and the passport stamp indicates they were in West Africa, don't allow them to enter the country. Simple. I would argue doing a simple check of passports is much more cost effective than treating people with Ebola once they reach the U.S. How much do you think Duncan's medical bill will cost the U.S. taxpayers? Not likely the hospital will ever see a cent of the astronomical bill. A bill that wouldn't have been necessary - and the nurses would not be fighting for their lives - if he had been denied entry into the country.

close the borders

We should also ban flights from China due to the recent outbreak of H7N9, the Middle-East because of coronavirus and Europeans for bad hygiene.

Isn't it unconstitutional to stop Americans from entering the US?

Only if they're sick.

Not too long ago you couldn't enter the country without a physical.

So long, it's been good to know you.

I'm glad she went to Ohio for something important that could not be put off until after her quarantine period ! Ironically, and by ironically I mean ironically and not coincidently, there is already a facebook page up to raise funds for this women where she is described as a "SELFLESS and productive member of society". Selfless, really ?

You think nurses are smart when it comes to their health or anyone else's ?

It is just a job for the majority of them. She should be sued by anyone on the plane that's get sick as a result of her ignorance.

Can a airlines be sued for negligence if they don't take basic precautions for its customers?. Something as simple as taking customers temperatures or asking them if they have been to affected areas in the last 30 days for example.

NotReallySeriousTho wrote:

Anyone here think its a hoax? Thats a tough pill for me to swallow but it sure would be nice! (I think)

Ummm.....Ummm.....

Really wrote:

Can a airlines be sued for negligence if they don't take basic precautions for its customers?. Something as simple as taking customers temperatures or asking them if they have been to affected areas in the last 30 days for example.

Not likely. Particularly on domestic flights. But, the fact that this nurse was advised not to fly, and then decided to fly home with an elevated temperature may open the women up to liability if she infected anyone.

dkny64 wrote:

And what's a low-grade fever among friends?

no touching

When is the plane day of symptoms?

Field Good wrote:

Really wrote:

Can a airlines be sued for negligence if they don't take basic precautions for its customers?. Something as simple as taking customers temperatures or asking them if they have been to affected areas in the last 30 days for example.

Not likely. Particularly on domestic flights. But, the fact that this nurse was advised not to fly, and then decided to fly home with an elevated temperature may open the women up to liability if she infected anyone.

That is not what happened. The nurse WAS allowed to fly by CDC. She is a nurse not an Ebola expert and she did selflessly work on a dying Ebola patient. It was the CDC that dropped the ball on this one, they even admit it in the linked article.

"Centers for Disease Control officials allowed nurse Amber Vinson to fly this week, even though she was showing symptoms of illness after helping treat Liberian Thomas Eric Duncan, who died at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital on Oct. 8.

But on Wednesday, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden bluntly said that Ms. Vinson should not have flown, even as he tried to reassure Americans that she likely was not highly contagious. CDC officials are now trying to get in touch with all 132 passengers on the plane so they can be monitored."

"Friedy, you're doing a heck of a job!"

they have wrote:

If you check an individual's passport and the passport stamp indicates they were in West Africa, don't allow them to enter the country. Simple.

Well, now that it's in the US, nobody in the US should be allowed to fly anywhere. Simple.

they have wrote:

If you check an individual's passport and the passport stamp indicates they were in West Africa, don't allow them to enter the country. Simple. I would argue doing a simple check of passports is much more cost effective than treating people with Ebola once they reach the U.S. How much do you think Duncan's medical bill will cost the U.S. taxpayers? Not likely the hospital will ever see a cent of the astronomical bill. A bill that wouldn't have been necessary - and the nurses would not be fighting for their lives - if he had been denied entry into the country.

You don't know much about how passports are used do you? Don't you know that by the time you check the passport THEY'RE ALREADY HERE. What do you do with them then? Who pays to put them up? Who pays to send them back? How about people that drive or take a train to a neighboring country and fly from there? What about all the other people on the same plane? Lock them up too? Do we start putting people in every airport in the world that has flights from West Africa to stop people from connecting to US flights? Do we stop flights from Spain now too? What about the merchant marine ships going in and out of Liberia? If we do one, isn't it totally reasonable that no one be allowed to fly out of DFW or Love Field? They're originating from an Ebola affected area after all.

Thinking travel bans will do anything to resolve the problem is delusional. It may stop or delay a few people, but it does nothing to deal with the issue that ALL hospitals need to improve their protocols, and that includes not sending someone home with a high fever because the CEO of the hospital wants a bonus instead.

you don't know much about how passports are used. it happens all EVERY DAY that we deny entry to people who fly here from other countries. since you probably never fly internationally, i'll let you in on the little known fact that there is this place called IMMIGRATION at every international airport that everyone -- americans and foreigners -- has to clear before letting in. every single day people get snagged in immigration and are denied entry. paying to send them home or quarantining them is a mere drop in the bucket compared to the cost of just 1 person with ebola getting through. the fact that you are completely unaware about how immigration works at airports is shocking. truly shocking.

i think what you meant to write was "thinking travel bans will do nothing to resolve the problem is delusional." of course all hospitals need to improve protocols (especially with the clueless CDC guiding them). however, if nobody with ebola gets loose here, it all will be moot. do us all a favor and broaden your horizons with a little international travel. you just might learn how immigration works and then you might be able to post something of some value.