What was Kimetto's 'casual training'?

R2D3 wrote:

why Kenyan cows have a penchant for endurance running,

Huh??? Who said that?

Jerry wrote:

RE: What was Kimetto's 'casual training'?

I think he did a Couch to 5k program and decided to a Mary while he was at his peak.

Math Major wrote:

Genee wrote:

Tergat lived half a mile from school and walked.

Is Tergat the one that won schoolboy races? No. Irrelevant.

Genee wrote:

In response to your above question, the brojos and Webb's talent vanished. Talent does go away.

You have a strange obsession.

As do you. How about taking a minor in Biology?

Genee wrote:

As do you. How about taking a minor in Biology?

I did actually. And when exactly did wejo's talent go away? In case you didn't notice he was injured until his late 30's.

Math Major wrote:

Genee wrote:

As do you. How about taking a minor in Biology?

I did actually. And when exactly did wejo's talent go away? In case you didn't notice he was injured until his late 30's.

It's gone now. It doesn't really matter when it went away.

Eldoret is a city of 300,000, with two Universities and dozen of schools, all of which are apparently exactly 6 miles from where their students live.

Kenyans have different options of picking their surnames, the kalenjins get to choose a surname after completing the initiation into manhood. You can choose from you fathers middle name which usually starts with a "kip" or you can go with your entire family name. Dennis Family name is "Kipmetto" and his dads middle name is Kipkoech, Dennis surname would either be Koech or go with his family Kipmetto which has more weight in the community than Koech. Kipmetto could be the pillar of the family that is pass on from generation to generation. Many Kenyans have a dilemma of choosing which name to go with, I think Dennis was conflicted, this names can sometimes be interchangeable because of various records and confusion

I don't what the big deal is. My little brother played baseball growing up, never ran, drank a lot in high school, decided to run in college to lose weight and ran 14:20 in his first year running, then ran 28:35 in his second year and then "retired" because he was bored.

I say he was talented as hell, but if he could get so fast so quickly, so can some dude in Kenya.

klf wrote:

I don't what the big deal is. My little brother played baseball growing up, never ran, drank a lot in high school, decided to run in college to lose weight and ran 14:20 in his first year running, then ran 28:35 in his second year and then "retired" because he was bored.

I say he was talented as hell, but if he could get so fast so quickly, so can some dude in Kenya.

If that were true it would be far more impressive and less training than what Kimetto did to get to 28:31

Le Foot wrote:

klf wrote:

I don't what the big deal is. My little brother played baseball growing up, never ran, drank a lot in high school, decided to run in college to lose weight and ran 14:20 in his first year running, then ran 28:35 in his second year and then "retired" because he was bored.

I say he was talented as hell, but if he could get so fast so quickly, so can some dude in Kenya.

If that were true ....

And therein lies the problem with the story.

-100/10

Remember this guy? Started running at over 30 and threatened the WR a couple of years later.

http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/morocco/hammou-boutayeb-319

lopes never won anything until he was 30

broke the marathon world record at 38

was capable of 2-04 30 years ago at nearly 40 years old

R2D3 wrote:

Can anyone explain what sort of hard labor is involved and why Kenyan cows have a penchant for endurance running, unlike western cows which stand on one spot chewing grass all day.

Yes - the overwhelming majority of Kenyan farmers do not own plots of land large enough for their cattle to graze on. The cowboys simply walk with them from morning to night grazing as they go. Up and down hills on rough roads (without shoes on or in car tyre sandals)

Lots of walking, some lazing in the sun and sporadic bursts of speed when a cow wanders off and you have to retreive it.

Kenyan rural farming is very different to western farming.

With respect I'd suggest we concern ourselves less with this and more with the open border, infectious disease and Obama-Progressive-Liberal-generated malaise of American, which makes Carter's 1st version look like an office Christmas grab.

This is directed at those here under 25, THIS IS YOUR FUTURE.

Head's up wrote:

With respect I'd suggest we concern ourselves less with this and more with the open border, infectious disease and Obama-Progressive-Liberal-generated malaise of American, which makes Carter's 1st version look like an office Christmas grab.

This is directed at those here under 25, THIS IS YOUR FUTURE.

5.9% unemployment, bitch.

And if you want recent history to compare Obama to, forget Carter. He will compare favorably to W.'s disastrous "worst foreign policy fiasco in history" invasion/debacle in Iraq, and our very close call with GREAT DEPRESSION 2.0 under him.

Furthermore, stop hijacking this running thread. Too many political anti-Obama "the sky is falling" threads already.

Just throwing a few things in here:

A lot of Kenyans run home for lunch and then back to school so that's 4x whatever the distance is. I'm sure Tergat did this (whatever his specific actually distance was) and amazingly he said they were so poor he was often underfed and hungry. So that guy was glycogen-sparing from a very early age. It sounds like Kimetto's childhood experience is very similar.

The malaria and back injury claims only serve to reinforce the theory of the "Zatopek effect"- which, for the uninitiated, is forced rest amidst what is normally considered a peak training period. If true this would be another in a long list of such episodes in the annals of marathoning.

Dropping out of Boston means he was further rested for a later, better performance.