Can high mileage HS guys get scholarships?

Why don't you work on your speed if you don't have any? Why avoid it?

Not talking about any of the numbers of mileage I posted above but how exactly do you do that? I guess im really uneducated about running and the only training I know is to 1. build a base 2. Speed endurance 3. More speed orientated intervals 4. Tapering for big race ... This is all I ever have heard about for training. And I know there is other methods I just have ever seen a plan for it before (in my case to work on speed).

75 isn't too bad. College coaches like to see 55-65 in singles, that's the sweet spot. If your main runs are 60 mpw with 3 5 mile doubles for your 75, then that's what your college coach would have you do a freshmen so you're just a year above the curve, big woop.

Also, if you run fast enough coaches don't care what your mileage is. Like with Ritz doing 95-110 mpw his senior year. Your plan seems good. Good luck.

Decent runner wrote:

Not talking about any of the numbers of mileage I posted above but how exactly do you do that? I guess im really uneducated about running and the only training I know is to 1. build a base 2. Speed endurance 3. More speed orientated intervals 4. Tapering for big race ... This is all I ever have heard about for training. And I know there is other methods I just have ever seen a plan for it before (in my case to work on speed).

Do what the sprinters do.

agc5k wrote:

75 isn't too bad. College coaches like to see 55-65 in singles, that's the sweet spot. .

Really?

malmo wrote:

agc5k wrote:

75 isn't too bad. College coaches like to see 55-65 in singles, that's the sweet spot. .

Really?

Yes, really.

Plenty of kids from York have gotten scholarships, and they've done a lot more mileage than that.

As someone observed above, if your times are fast enough there are plenty of college coaches who'd be interested, regardless of the mileage you ran to get there.

I don't think it really matters how much you ran to run what you did. Generally college coaches aren't recruiting by asking who could do what off of what. They look at the times and pick runners off of the fastest times. Run whatever you need to do to run as fast as you can in highschool to give yourself the best chance of getting a scholarship in college. Food, my friend, food.

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malmo wrote:

agc5k wrote:

75 isn't too bad. College coaches like to see 55-65 in singles, that's the sweet spot. .

Really?

doubles are better. Yes. But singles on only 55-65 shows the kid is underdeveloped but is easily molded from there. Tack on 3 mile doubles and the kid is at 75 mpw(from 60). Next year add 2 more doubles now 85. Increase length of a few runs now 95 3rd year. Then 100+ by senior year. This is why, from what I've heard, college coaches like 55-65 in singles

agc5k wrote:

malmo wrote:

Really?

doubles are better. Yes. But singles on only 55-65 shows the kid is underdeveloped but is easily molded from there. Tack on 3 mile doubles and the kid is at 75 mpw(from 60). Next year add 2 more doubles now 85. Increase length of a few runs now 95 3rd year. Then 100+ by senior year. This is why, from what I've heard, college coaches like 55-65 in singles

Which college coaches....from what you've heard?

Why would you do no winter base as a FR?

The winter and summer are really where you make the gains in your basic fitness. In the XC and track seasons you are sharpening up what you gained in the off season. With the amount of hard workouts and races you have to do in the season it becomes difficult to maintain mileage and really improve "basic fitness". You definitely get faster in season but mainly because you "put the edge" on the fitness you gained in the off season.

I wouldn't give up any opportunity to build endurance in the off season. However, it is a good idea to take a couple weeks totally off at the end of each track and XC season.

Regarding building speed, start off by doing strides after your runs (even in the off season). You prob dont need to do them every day (probably 3 times per week), but be consistent. You can also do short hill sprints (10-15 seconds at absolute max effort, with full (as much as you need, no benefit to making it shorter) recovery). Maybe once a week and start with only a few of them and build up to maybe 10.

Also, do not neglect stretching or other injury prevention stuff since the key to building up and managing higher mileage is to make sure you don't get sidelined.

I'm going to be a sophomore this fall, i did nothing all winter which really showed

malmo wrote:

agc5k wrote:

doubles are better. Yes. But singles on only 55-65 shows the kid is underdeveloped but is easily molded from there. Tack on 3 mile doubles and the kid is at 75 mpw(from 60). Next year add 2 more doubles now 85. Increase length of a few runs now 95 3rd year. Then 100+ by senior year. This is why, from what I've heard, college coaches like 55-65 in singles

Which college coaches....from what you've heard?

The ones in that article at the very least.

It's not about mileage, it's all about times. And 75 is NOT "high mileage" for a high schooler. I have sophomores and juniors at 70-75 miles per week. That is NORMAL and EXPECTED. Real "high mileage" for a high schooler is 80-90 as a senior.

But if you run 8:55, no coach worth his salt is going to care what it took you to run it. But even that won't get you a full ride at many great programs. Study hard in school, it'll get you more money.

Do whatever mileage you need to get the times. Coaches don't need to know your training details. Tell them that you do 45mpw.

You should really consider sitting out two years before your next high school class. Coaches don't care how old you are, just how fast you are. Luckily for me, I was able to get a scholarship at 17, but probably would have gone sub 4 in hs if I had two extra years.

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