Do you REALLY think it's okay to kill animals for food?

Carnivorousness will eventually go the way of the gas-powered car. Plant-based diets are the new black. Meat is unhealthy, inefficient, and inhumane. Those with anemia get a pass. And fish caught in the wild provide helpful protein for those with muscle wasting or recovering from surgery. I'm much healthier and fitter since going vegan, and I'm now doing low-carb veganism. Ten this morning felt like a stroll around the block. Those who aren't carb-resistant can pig out The low carb high fat cultists don't understand heart disease. The high fat part is suicidal.

Everyone eats a plant based diet. Some people just supplement with plants converted into meat.

runner who professes wrote:

Carnivorousness will eventually go the way of the gas-powered car. Plant-based diets are the new black. Meat is unhealthy, inefficient, and inhumane. Those with anemia get a pass. And fish caught in the wild provide helpful protein for those with muscle wasting or recovering from surgery. I'm much healthier and fitter since going vegan, and I'm now doing low-carb veganism. Ten this morning felt like a stroll around the block. Those who aren't carb-resistant can pig out The low carb high fat cultists don't understand heart disease. The high fat part is suicidal.

How do you know when there is a vegan on your thread?

They will tell you.

It is absolutely not ok to kill animals for food or to support the meat industry and animal farming by buying meat. Is MURDER ok? The meat industry is the most depraved business on the planet and will one day be viewed by most people as primitive, cruel, unsustainable and most importantly as an unnecessary part of modern human existence.

X OUT wrote:

salad is what food eats

Yes We raise animals for food. It is what they are for.

The bible tells us what not to eat

everything else is game.

Do not know the bible. Is there a list of what you should eat.

Are pickybars biblical food? wrote:

X OUT wrote:

salad is what food eats

Yes We raise animals for food. It is what they are for.

The bible tells us what not to eat

http://leviticusbans.tumblr.com/post/23730370413/76-things-banned-in-leviticus

everything else is game.

Do not know the bible. Is there a list of what you should eat.

Phew! Looks like I am in the clear!

trollpatroll wrote:

Ok, by the logic that a "every animal dies" would it be ok to raise and slaughter people for meat since they would die eventually anyway?

That was a poor argument

Secondly, the meat industry is the single greatest source of greenhouse emissions (more than all motor vehicles combined).

Third, humans do not require meat to survive- it's an inhumane, environmentally damaging AND unhealthy addition to humanity.

Prediction: in 50 years, meat eating will be a thing of the past. Much like slavery was once considered the norm, but is not largely viewed as morally corrupt.

I suspect that raising and slaughtering cows, pigs etc for food will go out of style in a maybe a century or so.

In case you haven't heard, the bible is a FICTIONAL book.You are going to let a fictional book decide what you can eat? There is no evidence-based reason for dietary guidelines in the bible.

Hannibal wrote:

Are pickybars biblical food? wrote:

Yes We raise animals for food. It is what they are for.

The bible tells us what not to eat

http://leviticusbans.tumblr.com/post/23730370413/76-things-banned-in-leviticus

everything else is game.

Do not know the bible. Is there a list of what you should eat.

Phew! Looks like I am in the clear!

runner who professes wrote:

Carnivorousness will eventually go the way of the gas-powered car. Plant-based diets are the new black. Meat is unhealthy, inefficient, and inhumane. Those with anemia get a pass. And fish caught in the wild provide helpful protein for those with muscle wasting or recovering from surgery. I'm much healthier and fitter since going vegan, and I'm now doing low-carb veganism. Ten this morning felt like a stroll around the block. Those who aren't carb-resistant can pig out The low carb high fat cultists don't understand heart disease. The high fat part is suicidal.

You might want to learn a little evolutionary anthropology and the role the switch away from a vegetarian diet played in the ascent (or descent) of man. If you lack an awareness of such matters you really shouldn't be posting about it.

And how the flip do you do low carb veganism anyway? Are you telling us you live on avocados and coconuts? And yet you say high fat is suicidal? Or perhaps you have found a vegan way of subsisting almost entirely on protein? Please do share how you achieve a low carb vegan diet. I'm on the edge of my (leather) seat.

molecular gastronomy is a fictional subset of cooking yet genXers line up for hours for a spoonful of pea puree tricked out to look like Lambchop.

WhistleBlower wrote:

In case you haven't heard, the bible is a FICTIONAL book.

You are going to let a fictional book decide what you can eat?

There is no evidence-based reason for dietary guidelines in the bible.

Hannibal wrote:

Phew! Looks like I am in the clear!

Yes We raise animals for food. It is what they are for.

The bible tells us what not to eat

http://leviticusbans.tumblr.com/post/23730370413/76-things-banned-in-leviticus

everything else is game.

Do not know the bible. Is there a list of what you should eat.

I revise my earlier post. From least restrictive to most restrictive religions:

1) you can eat anything but you can't enjoy it

2) you can eat anything but cows

3) you can eat anything but dogs except at certain times of the year when you can eat only fish. And no acting like goats! Act only like sheep.

4) You can't eat pigs, and dogs are filthy animals that should not be kept around.

5) You can't eat weasels, rats, great lizards, geckos, monitor lizards, wall lizards, skinks, chameleons, any animal which walks on all fours and has paws, eagles, vultures of any color, red kites, black kites, ravens, horned owls, screech owls, gulls, hawks, little owls, cormorants, great owls, white owls, desert owls, ospreys, storks, herons, hoopoes, bats, or seafood without fins or scales. And you can't eat flying insects with 4 unjointed legs, which don't exist anyhow. And you can't eat any animal except cloven-hoofed ruminants, so forget about the real insects too, as well camels, rabbits and of course pigs, and any sort of owl, lizard or carnivorous bird we may have neglected to mention.

and

6) You can't eat any meat at all, not even chickens. You can eat only disgusting vegetables and be all skinny and weak.

I don't know how strict religion 4 is about the religion 5 stuff. Religion 3 has long ignored it. But religion 6 is the absolute worst. If you're a vegan you might as well just crawl around like an animal and eat grass.

I went to the state fair today and ate cow, chicken, pig, and lamb.

I am a vegetarian. I see all the usual banal, cliched, unimaginative, tired and obvious 'refutations' are well represented.

Here's a thought, next time you contest a point, be ... original.

X OUT wrote:

It is an economic issue more than a moral or health issue. Welfare ranchers and chicken farmers kick back some of their handouts to republican politicians. The republican politicians use the bribes to pay for hookers and Rolexes. The republican politicians ain't gonna give up their hookers and Rolexes. It is not mericun to eat salad; all your money needs to go to supporting welfare ranchers and bribe taking republican politicians.

Its not even a full moon and the lunarics are out.

Robert Harrington wrote:

I am a vegetarian. I see all the usual banal, cliched, unimaginative, tired and obvious 'refutations' are well represented.

Here's a thought, next time you contest a point, be ... original.

Like who - you? What original thing did you just post?

Will not read every preceding post.

I like the taste of animal meat. I will continue to support the vile industry that is meat. Give me a cheeseburger or a gyro anyday.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Robert Harrington wrote:

I am a vegetarian. I see all the usual banal, cliched, unimaginative, tired and obvious 'refutations' are well represented.

Here's a thought, next time you contest a point, be ... original.

Like who - you? What original thing did you just post?

I posted a fact that you are unable to refute: carnivorous attacks on vegetarians are silly and spurious.

For my part I would never try to convert a carnivore to vegetarianism. Carnivores are too prone to logical fallacies. See if you can spot your own. [Hint: changing the subject and thus ham-fistedly trying to convert the point to a straw man. Ah shucks, I just gave it away.]

No, its not okay.

Robert Harrington wrote:

Carnivores are too prone to logical fallacies.

Eating meat causes a propensity towards logical fallacies now? Wowser! Cite your source please. This I gotta see.