critique running form at 4:35 pace TREADMILL

***think the way you do

Going to need to see some video of you running outdoors. Your form is being altered by the treadmill.

It's the perfect thing to say because now he knows is free to be weird with me- that I'll still want him if he throws up or doesn't speak a word for 3 hrs.

Looks fine from the waist down. As others have said, from the waist up your form, while not bad, is that of someone who once had a large/powerful upper body. You've lost the upper body due to distance training but you still carry yourself like a sprinter/football player running distance. Just make adjustments from the comments. More relaxation in the shoulders/arms. Try not to cross the center line with your arms. You want them going forward/backward, not side to side.

jlkjoije wrote:

Looks pretty good (if that's 4:35 pace). Cause it looks like you're running 5:35. Anytime you make 4:35 look like 5:35 I'd say that's doin' pretty good.

I'm really surprised you see this as 5:35 pace. The stride is a good deal to long to be someone running in the 5:30s, even for a slower loping stride.

heres a quick outdoor video of a stride. look ok? sorry to bump, but i received a ton of good feedback on here and wanted to see if maybe this video shows something the other didn't. it is extremely short but have at it

That was indeed very short.

I find myself unable to think of any criticism!

On the other hand, if there was a link to watch....

Cute camerawoman!

You make 4:35 look easy.

I don't know anything about form or anything, but it seems like your legs swing back more than they swing forward for most people and you're kind of leaning forward. You may be chopping your stride for the treadmill though. And I wouldn't call it a problem, just something I noticed.

heres the link sorry about that

Curious, what are your PR's?

1:54 800m and never really attempted a 1500. i honestly want to get as close to 4 minutes in the mile as i can. 48 second 4x4 leg speed

You affirm that "you get tight in the upper back during higher paces" so. Your arm carriage is way too high.

Lower them down like a locomotive see (youtube) for examples of the great Norwegian runner Grete Wait's arm carriage. She has a great example in what you should achieve.

However, moves your arms like your doing for higher paces. Running is fine tunning and knowing when to alter your techniques give the race.

For instance, Rafael Nadal would be able to beat the big servers in the game IF HE LOWERED THE TENSION IN HIS TENNIS

racket. Playing with as many rackets with different tensions makes a tennis player the tools to beat the other player. Federer would win more against the big servers if he got used to manipulating the stroke with an even lower tension strung racket and he already uses the lowest tension on the tout. It's just fine tuning. So fine tune your run. People just love my analogies that's why they get better.

Arm carriage is probably high because of the 400 background. Reminds me a little of Pierre Ambroise Bosse the french 800 runner.

Youre quad dominant, can tell that by a slight forward lean and slightly dorsiflexed foot on ground contact. See Centro i.e. Glute/Ham dominant runners usually run straighter up and reach for the ground (Michael Johnson, Nijel Amos)

I wouldn't change that much because your running style is like this for a reason. Only thing is arm carriage, little lower for longer distances, and a better hip extension.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyeC6C7jwEk

Then I saw this guy on the side of the page. Check his page out. Runs a 4:23 mile with a stroller and does speed work next to a police radar station.....I like this guy.

Jesus, this dude has great form. All you people critiquing it should see me run. It is making me think I wasted 30 years doing a sport I wasn't suited to.

kk awesome. I'm going to try and relax my shoulders and hopefully that will help me get through the longer intervals. thanks everyone for the support and I'm going to report back in a few weeks