Will Payton Jordan be streamed live or is it only on... FloPro

FloPro is the only feed at this point, unless someone snags it or those in attendance do Twitter updates each lap with commentary (or someone watching FloPro does the same thing).

Why not just pay the $20 and watch the meet? It really isn't that hard. Buy 2 less drinks this weekend and voila! - there is your money. Simple as that.

uphill run wrote:

FloPro is the only feed at this point, unless someone snags it or those in attendance do Twitter updates each lap with commentary (or someone watching FloPro does the same thing).

I was afraid of this.

Why are you so unwilling to pay $20 to watch multiple big meets of a sport that you claim to really enjoy? You'd be paying less than the cost of actually attending these meets in person.

give us a break wrote:

Why are you so unwilling to pay $20 to watch multiple big meets of a sport that you claim to really enjoy? You'd be paying less than the cost of actually attending these meets in person.

I am unwilling to pay FLOTRACK $20 because of the quality of content and customer service.

If someone charged for a similar, but more professional, service I would be willing to pay. I still think $20 is too much.

are you that cheap? wrote:

Why not just pay the $20 and watch the meet? It really isn't that hard. Buy 2 less drinks this weekend and voila! - there is your money. Simple as that.

I don't want to reward paying $20 to watch one meet. This isn't even the Diamond League. MLB.TV costs less than Flotrack and I can watch every major league baseball game. Not just one team or one meet.

This is about getting parents to pay to watch their sons run. That is their main market.

Flotrack does only college meets with a lot of participants.

I don't really care about the money. I have $20 to spare without cutting my alcohol consumption (which is a higher priority than this meet).

But if I pay $20 for this meet, then what about next meet, and the next meet? Simply put, there's no way in hell it's worth $20 to stream this meet, although I have the cash to spare. By giving in and paying $20, Flotrack is getting exactly what they want. Sure they might not have happy customers, but they have customers, and therefore no reason to dump their shitty business model. BUT, it's only shitty if people don't sign up, which is why I'm not signing up.

Who are the "kids" that Flotrack gets to announce?

I got a subscription for a couple of months (this is the last month and I won't renew).

The announcers sound like a bunch of kids (barely) out of college. They are sometimes funny, often obnoxious, and frequently disrespectful of the runners...which seems like an bad business decision.

The funny thing is that they kind of remind me of some of the obnoxious Letsrun posters. Is there any overlap?

Bought year subscription to FloPro in January.

$12.50 per month has gotten me this so far.

1/16 Galen Rupp 5K AR/Mary Cain 1K

1/18 Washington Preview

1/24 Galen Rupp 2 Mile/Mary Cain 1 Mile

1/31 PSU Invite

1/31 Wash Invite

2/07 BU Invite

2/08 ND Meyo

2/14 Husky Classic

2/14 ISU Classic

2/22 Alex WIlson Invite

2/28 MPSF Champs

3/02 BU Last Chance

3/14 Rewatched NCAAs (notice the archive is not on ESPN3 anymore)

3/28 Raleigh Relays

4/04 Florida Relays

4/04 Stanford Invite

4/18 Mt SAC Relays

4/25 Penn Relays

5/04 Payton Jordan Invite

not too mention these too..

FL Program Series

Manzano/Symmonds Mexico Series

Kenya Series

$20 for one meet is ridiculous but in reality I never had to do that cause I got so far 18 meets for 4 months at 12.50 per month.

$50 for 18 meets = $2.77 per meet so far.

just sayin’

Agree with ^^^^

Flotrack has got this in the bag. $20 is pennies when you split it up on all the content you recieve.

Chalk all the complaints up as user error, but Flotrack is keeping this sport alive and its thriving for those of us who work hard each week to watch a meet live or whenever we get the free time, thanks to the site's one-of-a-kind archive. Do you know how much server space those thousands of videos take up???

That's a cute thought but Nike is the one keeping the sport alive. I know that's hard to accept for some of you.

Personally I wish more venues would put on their own stream like Hayward/Oregon. I like the local flavor the commentators add and the video is usually good quality

samesies wrote:

Agree with ^^^^

Flotrack has got this in the bag. $20 is pennies when you split it up on all the content you recieve.

Chalk all the complaints up as user error, but Flotrack is keeping this sport alive and its thriving for those of us who work hard each week to watch a meet live or whenever we get the free time, thanks to the site's one-of-a-kind archive. Do you know how much server space those thousands of videos take up???

User error?

Continuing to charge people's credit card after they cancelled their subscription is ameteur league BS. I don't trust Flotrack with my credit card information.

Their prices still don't line up to any other sports that have their own network, with PROFESSIONAL coverage.

I'm going to create a crowdrise campaign to create a scaled down version of flotrack. It will simply just be live race stream and commentary. Once the meet is over, all races will be uploaded to a website for immediate viewing. Everyone in the running community can donate to help reach the amount that it would cost to run the website, equipment, travel. stay tuned

BjornDog meant to write:

I'm going to create a crowdrise campaign to create a scaled down version of flotrack. It will simply just be live race stream and commentary. Once the meet is over, all races will be uploaded to a website for immediate viewing. Everyone in the running community can donate to help reach the amount that it would cost to run the website, equipment, travel and broadcast rights fee to the meet producers/host venue. stay tuned

I am 100% behind this. When I used to show track races to friends/family/GF they were never interested. However, once I started muting things like flotrack and NBC and provided my own live race commentary I converted non-runners into track fans.

If you care about the sport and are analytical about it, you can make it very interesting. The point is to provide CONTEXT to the race and the racers, and all too often the athletes appear to be strangers to the commentators. There is no excuse for this.

I remember watching NCAA coverage with Levins a few years ago and the race commentator mentioned that he was falling back at the same time that I told my friend "wow he totally has this one, look how he tucked in behind to draft and how relaxed he looks. At this pace 2 weeks ago he kicked a 54s last 400m, so he can at least do that now, etc etc."

" is ameteur league BS."

-irony strikes again.

Feel free to bring your video gear to record the Payton Jordan races and post on Reddit as you see fit. The social media universe will love you for it.

Clearly a FloTrack employee. No customer has all this info off the top of their head or took the time to go look it up.

Death To Bunnies wrote:

Clearly a FloTrack employee. No customer has all this info off the top of their head or took the time to go look it up.

Agreed.

Who really wants to go watch NCAAs 6 weeks after the fact? NCAAs was on ESPN3 and I watched it no problem.

It's not $12.50 per month. It's $150 at once or $19.99 a month.

For $150 I would have watched 2 Galen Rupp races, maybe one or two Mt. Sac races, and one or two races from Penn (the pro races aren't on Flotrack). I'd watch the 5k from Stanford. That's it. Most of those meets suck.

From June-December I'd watch pretty much nothing.

$19.99 a month would be better for me and I'm still not interested in shelling out $100 to watch 5 or 6 races.