4 minutes vs sub 4

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10 years ago 03/27/2014 3:29pm EDT

I've been having this debate with a few other runners. I think it is fine to say you are a 4 minute miler if you have run the equivalent in a 1500; but to call yourself a sub 4 miler you must actually do it, unless your 1500 time equates to well under. Some of my friend think that even to call yourself a 4 minuter (not sub) you need to run it....but given that there are far more opportunities to run 15's I think it is fine to say you are a 4 minute miler but draw the line a little harder at the sub 4 title. Any thoughts on this...

10 years ago 03/27/2014 3:33pm EDT

re: KatieK

The fastest a woman has run is a 4:12 mile

10 years ago 03/27/2014 3:45pm EDT

re: KatieK

If you want to refer to yourself as a 4 minute or sub 4 miler you need to actually do it in a mile.

If you want to use a 1500 time you have to at least specify that it was a converted 1500. Don't just say you ran 4 or broke 4 if you didn't.

10 years ago 03/27/2014 3:58pm EDT

re: brogan1

'I think I could run a sub4 mile based on my 3:41 1500'

Nobody has a problem with this.

'I was so happy when I ran a 3:59'

'Yeah my first sub4 felt awesome too'

'Oh really when was that?'

'Well it was a 3:41 1500 but that's the same thing right?'

This is not okay.

'Hey I want to be sponsored I'm a sub4 miler'

'Really what was your time?'

'Well I ran a 1500 and beat another guy who was a sub4 guy so that's pretty much the same'

This is not okay.

10 years ago 03/27/2014 5:51pm EDT

re: ^^ This

So it would be wrong for me to refer to myself as a sub 4 metric miler?

10 years ago 03/27/2014 6:10pm EDT

re: fred

fred wrote:
The fastest a woman has run is a 4:12 mile

4:13

10 years ago 03/27/2014 6:11pm EDT

re: Tosh

That would be sub-4 for 1500m.

10 years ago 03/27/2014 6:15pm EDT

re: KatieK

10 years ago 03/27/2014 7:53pm EDT

re: baby boy

whenever someone who isnt track-educated asks me what event I run, I say the mile, not the 1500m. It's a more common distance, easier to grasp. When they ask what time I've run, I give them my converted-to-mile time.

It's just way easier that way.

But, I am not a 4 minute miler. Being a sub4 minute miler is a prestigious thing. It would be an insult to sub4 milers to claim to be one, when you've only run a converted sub4 from a 1500m.

But like was mentioned earlier, saying "I think I can run sub4 based on my 3:41...", that's fine. Just dont state it as a fact.

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