Training group help

See this thread, looks like a training group forming in Las Vegas, New Mexico.... good luck

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=56433&thread=56433

If you can handle discipline and you aren't afraid of high mileage and truly are interested in improvement. Contact Kevin or Keith Hanson. The web-site is hansons-running.com There are contact numbers through the site. These guys are fairly strict and it is certainly not for everyone. Don't be afraid of the qualifying standards as they have different levels of support.

I know of another training group that is just forming in the Midwest. We are currently looking for post-collegiate athletes that are training for the Olympic Trials in track or the marathon. A variety of support will be offered including structured coaching, use of facilities, possible travel money, help locating a part time job, close proximity to road racing and track running opportunities and an elite training group.

Please only respond if you're serious about getting better and relocating. For more information contact me at

grouprun@yahoo.com

Zap Fitness in Boone, NC is another option.

The obvious ones are Hansons or Indiana Invaders, both of whom, apparently, will set you up with the job and housing and such. Another less structured Midwest option would be to move to Madison, WI. There is a core of WRRT folks there that seem to be pretty welcoming as far as people training with them. The general running community is supportive. And the last I heard, there were plenty of jobs to be had there, although there is the current economy to contend with.

What area of the country are you going to college in? What type of mileage have you been accustomed to? Are you currently in a D1 school? What is the big secret, who are you? Is this whole thread just a hypothetical?

The big secret? I am simply looking for some suggestions on training locations. I choose not to reveal my name at this point, like 99% of the other people on this board. I would much rather email someone privately than put my entire life story on the board! By the way Mr. Holmes...what is your name

My names is Robert Holmes. I am 42 years old and a middle school teacher/coach. I never ran beyond high school but I do consider myself a track geek. I do not have near the athletic background that you do (if you are indeed what you say you are). I did and always would include my name but it is not particularly important in this situation. The questions that I asked about you are important. What school you attend gives us a background behind certain training philosophies that you have been exposed to and what might work best for you in the future. The level of the school gives us the level of competition that you have been accustomed to. The geographic area that you come from gives us more ability to help in what weather you are used to. Your name allows us to do a google search and see what kind of student you are and how you performed in several race situations beyond just your best times. It also tells us that you are serious and that this is not just a bunch of B.S. If you don't see all of the above things as important your decision will not be a very educated one. Good Luck

Thanks Robert! I am not looking for a middle school coach at this time.

Trackster,

Do not leave your name now, you have offended many a group. I promise you that your I know more than you attitude would make you unwelcome in Michigan. Running at the next level is all about learning with an open mind. I do not believe Mr. Holmes was offering to coach you just trying to offer educated advice. I work in the stores and have learned many valuable lessons from 10 minute milers. By the way my pr's are faster than yours. Does that lend any more credibility to what I say? You started the thread and then shot yourself in the foot by putting down advice. I happen to know Mr. Holmes and I appreciate what he does for our sport.

Trackster

I believe that Hanson member is out of line. I took no offense to what you said. I wasn't trying to call you out. I just hate the way this board has been "my groups better than your group" lately. I thought that you might be someone trying to fuel that debate. I do know Kevin Hanson and I am proud of what they are doing in our area but he will be the first to admit that his program is not for everyone. Those are the reasons for the questions. I do think that they should play a factor in your decision. I accept your rejection of me as your coach.

Thanks Mr. Holmes for being a man about my comments. I certainly was not starting this post with the intention of ripping on anyone. I do appreciate your advice. As for you, Mr. Hanson, I think your comments speak a great deal about why I would never dream of joining your "elite" group. Congratualtions on your PR's...I bet that comment made you feel good about yourself.

That wasn't Mr. Hanson as neither Kevin or Keith have times that fast. By the way it is nice to see that you and Mr. Holmes have kissed and made up but you still never answered any of his questions. Are you really looking for some direction or not?