Sub 14 5k? Predict

Freshman 5k runner wrote:

I have been doing great work for the past 2 months. I have ran 12 mile distance runs at about 5:25 pace finishing the last 6 at 5:12 pace somewhat comfortably. Mile/2k repeats at 4:35-4:40. Also 85% of my distance runs have been at sub-6min pace @ 50-60 mpw. I ran a 9:10 3200m being able to speak full sentences at a time the whole way just a few days ago. My PR is 14:39 which I ran 7 months ago. I'm hoping I'm ready, what does letsrun say? Sub 14:00? 14:15?

I'm just extremely impressed with you, your confidence, your times, your speaking during runs. Pray tell, what were the conversations about? Or the sentences? Musings about current events/world affairs? Which girl on the team you'll unsuccessfully try to bang? Your contempt for your father? Your love for animals/your father?

Godspeed, freshman 5k. Little do you know what the world has in store for you...but yes, I do think 14:00 is attainable.

I find I had to put my self out as a serious runner, not some high school kid(which I am). Btw I'm for real unlike your name.

Same freshman wrote:

I find I had to put my self out as a serious runner, not some high school kid(which I am). Btw I'm for real unlike your name.

rupp's nads wrote:

I'm just extremely impressed with you, your confidence, your times, your speaking during runs. Pray tell, what were the conversations about? Or the sentences? Musings about current events/world affairs? Which girl on the team you'll unsuccessfully try to bang? Your contempt for your father? Your love for animals/your father?

Godspeed, freshman 5k. Little do you know what the world has in store for you...but yes, I do think 14:00 is attainable.

You're in high school?

What kind of race environment did you run your 14:39?

I'm still sticking to 14:35 with no competition. 14:25 if you have a good competition. I think you're in good shape, but I don't think your workouts indicate a sub 14 min 5k, especially if that race is indoors.

You easy runs and 9:10 3200m are meaningless to figuring out your fitness. There are too many variables that LR community are unable to take into account.

The 2k/1600m workout is the only workout with which we can objectively measure your fitness.

Sorry bud. You're talented, especially for being in HS, if you get into a good college program you should be AA a couple of times and definitely be sub 14.

There is not much I can do now, so I will post back with results on Saturday. I am still aiming for sub 14:10.

Keep us updated and good luck!

5000 METERS

13:37.91 Galen Rupp (Central Catholic, Portland, Oregon) 04

13:44.0 Gerry Lindgren (Rogers, Spokane, Washington) 64

13:44.70 Dathan Ritzenhein (Rockford, Michigan) 01

13:52.8 Steve Prefontaine (Marshfield, Coos Bay, Oregon) 69

13:55.65 John Zishka (Lancaster, Ohio) 80

13:58.2 Craig Virgin (Lebanon, Illinois) 73

14:00.2 Rick Riley (Ferris, Spokane, Washington) 66

14:01.40 Eric Mastalir (Jesuit, Carmichael, California) 86

14:04.8 Alberto Salazar (Wayland, Massachusetts) 76

14:07.55 Josh McDougal (Home, Peru, New York) 04

1 2741 Conner Mantz 15 Smithfield, UT 14:24.33O

2 1139 Aaron Templeton 14 Knoxville, TN 14:37.84O

3 2360 Elijah Armstrong 15 Pocatello, ID 14:48.72O

4 2695 Ryan Forsyth 14 Severna Park, MD 14:48.75O

5 983 Colin Martin 14 Pittsburgh, PA 14:49.32O

6 2845 Patrick Tucker 15 Hampton Bays, NY 14:51.33O

7 35 Stephen Garrett 15 newark, DE 14:53.38O

8 1502 Patrick Sheehan 14 Mooresville, NC 14:57.82

9 2436 Ben Huffman 14 Charlotte, NC 15:03.22

10 238 Colin Tierney 14 East Greenwich, RI 15:04.15

11 3469 Andrew Johnston 14 Powell, OH 15:26.04

12 3508 Zack Langston 14 Lexington, SC 15:32.28

13 2846 Tyler Wolfe 14 Huntington, NY 15:35.47

14 3344 Isaiah Barlow 14 Hutchinson, MN 15:41.77

15 2378 Scott Meehan 14 Sparta, NJ 15:41.97

No sub 14. Although if you're Conner congrats on a dominating performance.

Dude, you should have added that you were in high school in your original post, in which case I would say:

1) No, you have no shot to break 14 and

2) You need a new measuring tool for you 12 mile tempos.

Sorry, but I don't buy it.

4x1600 @ 4:36...4:24 4mins rest

6x1000 @ 2:48...2:38 2mins rest

12x400 @ 66...62 75secs rest

13:58.8

No shot.

I've been around a lot of sub 14 guys, you aren't ready for that.

I'm actually impressed you have run 14:30

2000s wrote:

No shot.

I've been around a lot of sub 14 guys, you aren't ready for that.

I'm actually impressed you have run 14:30

I might not be ready for sub 14, and I'm defiitely willing to accept it. On the other note I ran 14:26 with a 62 final 400, which felt easy. Judging by how I felt I'm sure I'm capable of 14:10-14:15. Thanks Letsrun for the help, but I won't need it any longer.

That is great, but most people run 13:51-59 with a 59-62 last lap. You have to average under 67 to get there. You go through the 3200 under 9:00.

There is a world of difference bewteen 14:26 and 13:59.

It is easy to go from a 16:00 to a 14:59 guy.

It is difficult to go from 14:59 to 14:20

It is very hard to go from 14:20 to 13:59

Then after that it takes big jumps in fitness.

Basically you are saying I ran 4:10 and kicked in 58 and it felt easy. That is great. That doesn't mean you have any chance to break 4:00.

Workouts 13:50 guys did in my day

20x400 with 60 seconds rest (61 average)

6 mile tempo (29:50)

Mile breakdown staring at 4:15 and getting faster each interval (1200,800,600,400, 200, 100)

Finishing with 62 is not really special if you run 70 avg in rest of race.

I finish with 64 with avg of 76.5 in rest of race. However, that 64 feels not easy.

Did you run solo? Sub 14 might be posibble for you in future.