Anyone ever had a "Sports Hernia" aka: "Sportsman's hernia", "Gilmore's groin", or "
Awesome. I had bilateral with Meyers 6 weeks ago. Was doing well and had major setback at 4 weeks. Now in more pain then before. I saw him today and he feels it is intact and just scar tissue and inflammation. He proceeded to have another doc there to hit my groin with about 30 jabs of cortisone ( ouch)
Any other experiences? Was doing great up to week 4.
I had bilateral with Meyers 6 weeks ago. Was doing well and had major setback at 4 weeks. Now in more pain then before. I saw him today and he feels it is intact and just scar tissue and inflammation. He proceeded to have another doc there to hit my groin with about 30 jabs of cortisone ( ouch)
Any other experiences? Was doing great up to week 4.
Hi all, I have been having right groin pain for 2.5 years. When it flares up I can also get lower abdomen pain and it can even spread out as far as my hip.
I have had ultra sounds and MRIs that all came back clear.
Finally I have been to see Professor Aali Sheen who is an expert in the UK on the Sportsmans Hernia. He has recommended that I have a mesh repair.
However my physios are sceptical.
The pain is not too severe. I can run on it but I can no longer play football (soccer) as stretching, twisting and turning causes it to flare up.
I am now at the stage where I need to decide whether to have the surgery or not or just accept that I will never play soccer again. I am 42 and otherwise fit and in good health.
What would people advise?
At least you made it to 42! I'm only 28, have a sports hernia injury, have been doing physical therapy for the past 2 years, and am just now trying to get back into playing soccer.
I wouldn't recommend the surgery, as the results appear mixed as you've seen in this thread. Physical therapy could help, but this injury takes forever to "heal". It may never heal, but you might be able to strengthen it to the point that you could play soccer again with minor discomfort.
Mentioned by another user as well, "Bulgarian Split Squats" are probably one of the best exercises to help strengthen your muscles and help with a sports hernia injury. I'd definitely recommend doing some of those every 2 days.
As long as you don’t have any serious tear that bothers you even at easy things like walking or sitting. don’t get any surgery. I had more than a year pains in the adductors, in the hip flexors and lower abdomen. When I sneezed it hurt like hell. Set ups were very difficult, and also any thing to do with the hips. Yet I could run and even do quality sessions but I had to warm up gradually otherwise- great pain. I tried all kinds of exercises for the hurting areas with lite weight- physiotherapy kind- no improvement.
BUT- and here is your SOLUTION-
When I started lifting heavy deep squats and heavy weight exercises for the hips- mainly squats kind- the pain went away like magic in a few weeks.
I had a bilateral adductor repair by Dr. William Brown 11 weeks ago. It took about 6-7 weeks to start feeling better and have enough confidence in it to start exercises without hesitation. But, the last 4-5 weeks I have had tremendous improvement and am back to running fully pain free at 11 weeks. I would recommend contacting him if you don't want to spend the out of pocket money to see Dr. Meyers. You can talk to him directly over the phone and he is very transparent and explains the whole procedure very clearly.
I've been diagnosed with SH/AP. currently going through rehab. I've seen Dr. Litwin in Mass and he recommended lap/mesh and not open. I was surprised as I don't want any more mesh put in me (both regular hernias repaired with mesh), but he said that because of current mesh and that I had an appendectomy years ago and that I am 47 years old, my tissue may not be able to handle an open repair.
Is that just not wanting to risk it or playing it safe? how old is too old for an open repair procedure?
I had this problem when I was 19 years old. It started two weeks into summer XC training when, on a run, I was trying to push through some upper hamstring pain. At one point I felt a sharp pull in my upper hamstring, and I stopped. When I started the slow jog/walk home (just a mile) I also felt a tug in my groin, from the center but deep inside. When I tried to run again the next day, then the next, then the next, I wasn’t too worried about my groin because my hamstring was more painful. However, after two weeks of not running, my hamstring healed and my groin became the problem. I remember waking up and having pain sitting up while on my back in bed, or having pain while lifting my bad leg to put my foot in my shorts (basically bending down with your arms holding something up and then lifting your bad leg toward your body). At first it hurt to bike, but eventually I was able to ride with no pain. Anyway, after 6-8 weeks of little to no running (but lots of cycling), I crashed and broke my collarbone and was forced into 10 days of zero activity. I started running 2 weeks after the crash, and I felt some groin pain still, but it was less than before. I ran through the little groin pain that I had (in addition to some alter-G runs) and eventually it went away totally (maybe after 2-3 weeks of easy short runs). I also had dry needling done on my groin and upper hamstring, which was painful but helped. One thing—I stretched A LOT. I attribute my comeback from this injury to stretching, rest, strong anti-inflamitories, and maybe even dry needling. Hamstring stretches especially. I hope this helps for anyone reading this. You will be okay! Surgery might not be necessary! Try resting and stretching (without inflaming the bad parts) and taking ibuprofen for a couple weeks and go from there. Best of luck!!!!! (By the way, this is a year later, and I’ve had zero groin pain since)
Just had my first sports hernia. After 16 weeks of PT going great and then it popped when I tried to sprint a bit. Going for MRI and doctor suggests a platelet-rich plasma (PRP) injection. Does anyone have any experience with that approach vs. surgery?
Hey letsrun, I need some advice regarding an injury I picked up recently. I am not sure if it is an injury with my groin or with my hip. I posted this on another thread last night
I run in college. Starting about a week before regionals (early november), I experienced some pain in my right groin after a workout. I had difficulty/pain everytime I ran fast (pre race strides/kicking at the end of the race) but I ran through it as I knew we had a chance at making nationals. Flash forward to after regionals, we make it to nationals and during the last workout before nationals, I had the same pain in my groin area but it was a lot worse than it was before regionals. I was limping for several hours afterwards. I actually almost AA'd at Nationals which was surprising because my groin was in a lot of pain in the days leading up to the race and on race day. Coach recommends that we all take two weeks off after nationals so I did so. I started up running again and I am in even worse pain than I was in before nationals.
Here are my current symptoms:
-When laying down on my back, placing pressure on the front of my right hip really bothers me. It feels as if its the area around where my femur connects to my hip.
-Still have groin pain.
-My Hip Flexor region is very tight but no matter how hard I stretch it, it is still extremely tight.
-I ran a few hours ago and it's still bothering me (more than 4 hours later. in the workout before nationals I was only in pain for two hours afterwards). I am walking with a visible limp because of the pain.
As of right now, I have final exams this week and next so I will not be home until next week. I plan on going to a doctor when I get home to see what it is."
-Update in morning:
It still hurts but its more so my groin than my hip right now. I know with stress fractures though that they tend to be less painful in the morning and progress in pain throughout the day.
I'd see a chiropractor, too. You'd be amazed at what they can find and cure. My chiro cured my hip issue. It doesn't sound like a sports hernia, either.
Yes. Also not sure if it was mentioned in another thread but Mr. Gilmore passed away recently, read his obit in The Times the other day.
Going through bits of this thread. Just got diagnosed with a "core sports injury." I'm in the Philly area, but don't have the out of pocked money for Dr. Meyers. There is another doc at UPenn, but my doc at Rothman recommended I resume with sports chiro and adding in more specific PT than kinda what I've been doing on my own.
Will continue to poke through this thread and see what people recommend. Thanks.
After reading more into it, I believe that I do have a sports hernia. Anyone know a good doctor in the Chicago area to visit?
Gotta love this post
Den, Tiff and Surf,
I have just been to the doctor about what I believe to be a hernia (one inguinal and one possibly minor umbilical). Doctor gave me scan referrals to check.
I mentioned to doctor that it started to feel like that muscles / tissue over random places in my torso were softening and kind of opening up a little, as if letting tiny beginnings of hernias happen, after I'd been on capsules which have omega 3's and 6's in them to treat dry eye. I'd been on them for about 6 weeks.
When I stopped taking them, the sense that my torso was softening too much calmed down. (I am wondering if the omega 3's and 6's softened my collagen fibres even more, creating that sensation).
I had started to feel the sense of a hernia (inguinal) coming on at that time and I could tell I had a mechanical predisposition to it happening there after a knee injury had caused me to place my hip to leg angle differently in the night over a period of years. I also had been having small umbilical poppings out that were tiny & I'd been able to push them back in, for the past - maybe year - prior to the omega 3 and 6 capsules. After I finished the omega 3 and 6 capsules recently, all the other minor opening sensations throughout the torso left me, but the inguinal and umbilical minor sensations, at the next strenuous task, suddenly felt like they'd exploded into a full hernia.
That's the best way I can explain it. I then reviewed a site on the web talking about some hernia's being related to collagen issues. Makes sense.
So - I am just suggesting that since fish oil has omega 3 and 6 oils in it too, that perhaps you be mindful about your doses.. if you feel that aligns with your experience in your bodies.
Surf - You have graciously held a high-ground. I think you are great to be careful, caring and open minded & patient with your recovery. Keep going if you are happy with a gentle rehabilitation. That's all my body can ever handle. Everyone's body is different. You give things a go then you wait two days which is better wisdom and patience than many have. Don't be deterred by (well-intentioned but none-the-less not necessarily informed) accusations by others in the group that you need a psychiatrist or have any other problems. Stay positive and curious. Everyone's bodies and circs are different. I only wish I had the perseverance and motivation of everyone in this group around doing rehab exercises whatever the condition.
Also - the hip-bone is connected to the thigh bone is connected to the knee bone, the ankle bone and so on & so forth. So, of course, neurotransmitters, diets, caffeine and all sorts can play a part in how our bodies manage themselves. Neurotransmitters and inflammation, for example are some of the kinds of things that influence those with depression. A pill that assists with neurotransmission of dopamine & serotonin can be helpful in making people able to be more active in their bodies. That isn't me pushing pills, that is me saying to the (well-meaning) nay-sayers, that of course there are all kinds of ways a body injury can occur.
Hello, I am new to this thread.
Just wanted to share my story and see if I can get some recommendations/help/more info...
It all started with playing in a soccer tourney one weekend and then coming back home really sore, especially in the groin area. I toughened it out and continued playing with soreness in leagues later that week. The soreness in the rest of my body went away after about a week,, however, the soreness in my groin on the left side intensified and has not gone away since.
I went to my my PCP and told me that i had a "strained groin" and to give it 2 weeks for resting. Two weeks went by the soreness did NOT go away and was pretty much the same. It would feel good some days and then often flare up. With frustration I went back to my PCP and then recommended I do a few weeks of PT. After about 3-4 weeks of PT I was NOT seeing any results.
Out of frustration, and after doing some research, my symptoms were that of a sports hernia. I asked my PCP to refer me to a sports medicine doctor and when i saw the hernia specialist, he recommended I get a "sports hernia" specific MRI. After getting the results back the Hernia specialist said I had "Osteitis Pubis" and referred me to the hip specialist. Keep in mind this whole fiasco has been going on for over 5 months now. By this time I had done more research and read about Dr. Meyers, Dr. Mushaveck, as well as others. I mentioned Dr. Meyers to the hip specialist and he said he would make a referral to see Dr. Meyers given that he was a hip specialist and my hip is completely fine. After Dr. Meyers office got in contact with me, they told me about the process and how they would do a consultation, an MRI, and surgery the next day if it was needed. However, the lady over the phone, when asking for my insurance information, said that Blue cross Blue shield does not cover anything, maybe the consultation fee due to the fact that Dr. Meyers uses a particular code that is known for "experimental procedures" and therefore BCBS does NOT cover the surgery.
In that case I would have to pay out of pocket and the total cost would be anywhere from $12,000-$18,000 which is not possible for me. After coming to this realization and as disheartening as it was to hear this over the phone, I researched another doctor in California, Dr. Brown. Out of desperation I called his office given that this doctor was in network with my insurance and spoke to one of the secretaries who was very helpful. I told her my story and she told me that they get a lot of patients from Dr. Meyers because of the same reason with insurance. She told me to email Dr. Brown and send him a picture of my MRI results as well as a picture of my insurance card. Dr. Brown got back to me relatively quick and even gave me his personal cell number. He recommended I get an injection of the adductor longus tendon with marcaine and a steroid. He said if I feel better for a few hours then that is strong evidence that the adductor longus is the etiology of my pain. If I did not feel better after this then he said to inject the symphysis pubis with marcaine and a steroid, and to let him know the results. I asked him what would be the next step if this did not fix the issue he said I would need surgery.
So I have scheduled an appointment to get said injections to see if this could fix my problems before even considering surgery and having to travel to California.
I apologize this is such long message but this has been my odyssey in trying to find a solution for my injury. I have not been able to play soccer and can run for short periods of time. If you all have any recommendations, comments, or any experience with Dr. Brown that you would be willing to share with me and everyone else on hear it would be greatly appreciated!