RE: Official 2013 Pre Nats Discussion Thread

Why? Cheserek almost had to wait for him at Franklin Park, he is much better than Leingang

What I do not get is hiow Elkaim a sub 4 minute miler and 13:39 5K guy cannot be anywhere near their top 3 and has been 7th twice in a row, way back

Trialswatcher wrote:

Why? Cheserek almost had to wait for him at Franklin Park, he is much better than Leingang

What I do not get is hiow Elkaim a sub 4 minute miler and 13:39 5K guy cannot be anywhere near their top 3 and has been 7th twice in a row, way back

Perhaps he is not currently a sub/13:39 guy.

The Stache wrote:

Does pre-nats no longer run the two separate races like they used to?

They do but the second men's race is now a "B" quality race so no one pays much attention to it.

The overall quality is down because of the shift of many schools to the Wisconsin Adidas race, which started a few years ago. Wish they'd post the results from that one.

For CU , Hursz is going to redshirt next year , which will make CU scary tough next year. As for this year I am shocked about CU's 1st man in who is Morgan Pearson!! Last year he was like around their 6th guy! How in the hell did he leapfrog all his CU teammates in this race! Man that's a breakout race if I ever seen one!

Solid run by O'Hare.

truth sayer wrote:

You can't sign up and say, "I want to pay $20 for this one event. It's not possible.

Yes it is. Would you like me to walk you through it?

I live in Oregon and I\'m an Oregon fan.

That said, if I read ONE MORE POST that says: \"Oregon didn\'t run their fastest team, so today\'s results don\'t count!\" I\'m going to vomit.

The guys that ran, ran very well.

They guys that didn\'t run, didn\'t run.

Plus, Jake Hurysz didn\'t run for CO, so whining about missing runner is especially moot.

I\'m now I\'m ranting here, but what really bugs me is the constant \"We\'re better than our results shoe\" harping is really disrespectful to the guys who DID go out and lay it on the line today.

Oregon did really well today. They have a shot of doing better and three guys on the roster who haven\'t suited up on race day and have a chance to be scorers in big races. *BUT* it doesn\'t count if they don\'t race.

yeahyeahyeah wrote:

And if Hurysz runs for Colorado nothing changes.

pac12fan wrote:

Take away Winn 44th and Jenkins gets at least top 10 and Oregon wins :( Also what's up with Oregon number 5 not running either the frechman thought both he and Oregon number 2 Jenkins would run today :(

Both of these two comments are ignorance.

I have been saying it for months. Jenkins is hurt right now

CU's top 5 is very tough with less than 20 sec gap and maybe 1 or 2 guys not running very well today. They might not have the low stick which makes it difficult to win at nationals, but if the pack starts at around 20th place they will be very tough.

Quick reminder, CU will be hosting PAC 12 in two weeks on November 2nd. So we will get to see the Nos. 2 vs 3 again very shortly.

The race will not be on the CU home course but a new flat course at the Coal Creek Golf Course in Louisville (about 6 miles SE of Boulder).

CU will still have the altitude advantage though.

Koppenberg wrote:

I live in Oregon and I'm an Oregon fan.

That said, if I read ONE MORE POST that says: "Oregon didn't run their fastest team, so today's results don't count!" I'm going to vomit.

The guys that ran, ran very well.

They guys that didn't run, didn't run.

Plus, Jake Hurysz didn't run for CO, so whining about missing runner is especially moot.

I'm now I'm ranting here, but what really bugs me is the constant "We're better than our results shoe" harping is really disrespectful to the guys who DID go out and lay it on the line today.

Oregon did really well today. They have a shot of doing better and three guys on the roster who haven't suited up on race day and have a chance to be scorers in big races. *BUT* it doesn't count if they don't race.

...In Andy Powell we trust.

This guy is going to help more than Jenkins this season I bet.

http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/250907-NCAA-Division-I-Pre-Nationals-Invitational-2013/video/722529-Tanguy-Pepiot-the-new-Frenchman-from-Oregon-wins-open-race-at-PreNats-2013

notkip wrote:

Count again...only 2 frosh in top 5 (still impressive, though).

You're right. I meant 3 frosh in top 10.

SUU had a surprisingly strong showing. Couple of 5 or 10 place improvements and ...20-25/30 for 5th man

The Frenchman would need to improve a lot by the end of the year to help Oregon. Not saying he won't do that though...but Powell better be right in saying this would be a slow rust buster for him.

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Why? Cheserek almost had to wait for him at Franklin Park, he is much better than Leingang

What I do not get is hiow Elkaim a sub 4 minute miler and 13:39 5K guy cannot be anywhere near their top 3 and has been 7th twice in a row, way back

......maybe he's doping.