kipsang ran a 2:03:32 in practice?

Who?

Did he track it on his garmin? He should upload and post it, otherwise it's hard to believe.

i have a hard time believing anyone would do a full marathon at race pace just for practice. even if it was a 2:08:32. so to say he did a WR in practice is crazy. does he know how obvious it is that he is a liar?

That's nothing, I ran a marathon under 2 hours in practice, then jumped in the ocean for a swim.

facials for everyone wrote:

Did he track it on his garmin? He should upload and post it, otherwise it's hard to believe.

POD

it could be a typo, example 2:13.32 would be very believable for him, he probably could run 2:13 every week if he chose to.

Janim wrote:

Who?

Owner of the second fastest legal marathon in history. Which is really worth more than the WR (four seconds faster) because of the crazy final miles of the old Frankfurt course.

I think he ran that time for 40km, Canova mentioned in earlier posts that high-profile athletes are used to do 40s at altitude - what apperently must equal to a race at sea level

for anyone who does the marathon distance in practice, or thereabouts, if you find you are easily running PR pace for 15 miles - cut the workout short. Stop at 18 to 20 miles.

You are going to PR big time in the marathon - that is of you don't bask in the glory of your great shape - and run many workouts like you've never done before, only to show up on race day with less than a full tank and run well.. but not that well.

duh, don't be stupid and be like an egotist boxer who takes too many punches to the head in sparing.

Wilson never said that. That is just Letsrun.com propaganda. If you click at yesterday's quote where he is said to have said that he ran 2:03:32(iaaf article), Wilson is quoted to have said “Right from the start, I’ve prepared to run very well here. It’s in my mind to run the World record. Having run 2:03:42, I know it’s possible. I’ve trained to my very best, and if everything goes well with the pacemakers and my colleagues, I think we can do it. It’s a team effort, like in training, even more in a race. The more you have a strong group, the more easy it is.”

The "Having run 2:03:42..." here is a reference to the time he ran in Frankfurt in 2011. Letsrun knowingly or unknowingly posted a misleading quote since nothing like that was said.

I am sure this got lost in translation or something.

He may have said "I ran 2:03 pace for 32 km" (20 miles). This would be similar as the Hansons predictor workout (26.2km at MP).

Practice? We're talking about practice. Not the game. Not the game. Practice.

I want to solve the mystery.

In Kenya, we have a place called Nangili, where all the marathon runners living near Eldoret go for their long run.

About one month before the race, we use to do, with the most part of athletes, 40 km (20 km going a little bit uphill, from 2020m till 2180m of altitude, then coming back, with the second 20 km favourable) very fast, as control of the shape, and this is the last workout of full distance at high intensity.

Before 2010, nobody there ran under 2:13:00.

At the beginning of 2011, we started running faster, and Moses Mosop ran 2:07:15.

After his result in Boston, the most part of top marathon runners started to run faster in that course.

Last year, before London, Abel Kirui ran in 2:04:57, and this became the parameter for the other best athletes.

Wilson, in the past, was used to run in about 2:10:00 (before OG 2:09:12 in muddy conditions).

Looking at an attempt of WR, I advised him to put two new things in his training :

1. Something longer than 40 km (and he ran 45 km at 90% of Marathon speed)

2. More intensity (and consequentely longer recovery in between) in some of his workouts of distance.

So, he went on the normal course in Nangili (I repeat, 40 km with 20 going up and 20 coming back) in 2:03:32, beating the "course record" of Abel Kirui.

You must think I consider about 1 minute of difference every 10 km between the same training at sea level (tarmac and racing shoes) and in Nangili (normally, heavy training shoes and road with less grip). The difference in running there or at sea level, instead, if the condition of the road is the same, in my opinion is about 3.0 per km (30.0 every 10 km). This means Wilson practically ran, 4 weeks before Berlin, 40 km in less than 2 hours, referred to the conditions of the race.

And this is the secret for running fast during the race : running fast in training, and of course to fully recover these hard sessions, otherwise you go to kill yourself.

crazy.

Moot now. He ran a new world record in Berlin.

He sucks at sea-level and asphalt. He can crush a marathon in 2:03 at altitude on hills and dirt. GOAT.

AI wrote:

Practice? We're talking about practice. Not the game. Not the game. Practice.

Ha ha ha!

Allen Iverson. I still remember. Practice? Practice?

Not a game, we're talkin abot practice

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQM&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dd29VsG35DQM

AI wrote:

Practice? We're talking about practice. Not the game. Not the game. Practice.

Is it the game you'd die for?