Karma for Tiger? He gets caught cheating in golf tournament and now Lindsey Vonn may have cheated on him? Karma is a ***

Golf seems pretty unforgiving about this sort of thing and I wouldn't expect the officials to look the other way if evidence were presented. It's their job at this level to be strict about rules like this.

However, the real topic we are discussing here is Tiger's ethics and, the truth is, no one (ethics wise) would bat an eye at this if Tiger didn't have a rap sheet of asinine behavior a mile high already. If you build up ethical capital by consistently showing integrity, then people cut you a lot of slack when you slip up. If you have a horrible reputation for being a sleazeball, then they don't and everyone makes a huge deal out of it. Karma is a bitch.

Rojo seems to have an obsession with exposing cheaters. Rojo never achieved the running accomplishments of his twin. Do you think this could be a subconscious attempt to call out his twin?

"The point you are missing (entirely, quite surprisingly) is that a rule was broken, not whether it can be justified by using the rationale of no advantage being gained"

Isn't the point of having rules to prevent gaining an unfair advantage?

Another video to help visualize the legal wobble/rock/oscillate idea.

A perfect example of legal oscillation is shown at 1:27-1:43. Here:

http://youtu.be/ghM1Xic5XnQ

See how much the ball "moves"? It's a judgment call if it returned to its original position.

***Ignore the marking of the ball after 1:43 *** Tiger didn't have the option to mark the ball first, since he was not on the putting surface.

not so fast there wrote:

Another video to help visualize the legal wobble/rock/oscillate idea.

A perfect example of legal oscillation is shown at 1:27-1:43. Here:

http://youtu.be/ghM1Xic5XnQ

See how much the ball "moves"? It's a judgment call if it returned to its original position.

***Ignore the marking of the ball after 1:43 *** Tiger didn't have the option to mark the ball first, since he was not on the putting surface.

Sorry, here is a better link to the 1:27 mark in the video:

Tryon Creek wrote:

You're wrong, Rojo. The poster before you was assuming that it shifted, but did not move. If that's what Tiger thought he saw, he didn't cheat. He may have been wrong, and he may have bee subject to a penalty, but "cheating" requires intent.

Correct. Not every rule infraction is "cheating."

I agree with Rojo 100% that the ball OBVIOUSLY moves. But I disagree 100% that this is "cheating."

Did the UK 4x100 in Moscow or the Canadian 4x100 in London "cheat" because of lane and zone violations? Of course not. Yet the UK team exchanged out of the zone, and the third Canadian team stepped on the lane line, and didn't ask to be DQed, right?

Penalty for inadvertent error is not the the same as "cheating."

Dennis Reynolds wrote:

As for Vonn, since when is making out cheating? Unless she was making out with his erect penis I see no problem and I'm sure man whore tiger won't either.

+1

I am by no means anywhere near pro level golf, but I have to wonder why Tiger moved anything at all if he was just hitting his ball 10 feet out of the woods into the fairway.

I have hit through sticks, pinecones, minor rocks, etc to make the same type of shot and have never failed to get it out onto the fairway. Surely a pro golfer can get it out of the woods better than I can. So why move a few minor twigs on a shot like that? It's not like your chipping it onto the green...