Karma for Tiger? He gets caught cheating in golf tournament and now Lindsey Vonn may have cheated on him? Karma is a ***

Tiger Woods was involved in another rules violation Friday in the BMW Championship, this time getting the two-shot penalty before he left the golf course.

Video evidence indicated that his golf ball moved ever so slightly as Woods was removing a twig from an area under the trees behind the first green at Conway Farms. What made this case unusual is that the video was taken by a videographer working for PGA Tour Entertainment, and the infraction was noticed by someone editing the film.

Slugger White, vice president of competition at the PGA Tour, stopped Woods before he signed for a 70. Woods didn’t believe the ball moved out of its position, and White said the world’s No. 1 player still wasn’t convinced after watching the video.

“He said he didn’t feel he could see that,” White said. “I felt like that was OK, but the ball did move.”

Woods did not cheat per the report you cited.

You lying SOB

She's from the Bill Clinton school of cheating. No penetration = no cheating.

Money and fame don't mean much if you're a douchebag of the highest order.

Klondike5 wrote:

Woods did not cheat per the report you cited.

You lying SOB

Your post makes no sense. You just tell us how he got a 2 stroke penalty but then say he didn't cheat?

Are you saying he didn't realize he cheated? Well then you clearly haven't seen the video. I saw this thread and then saw some highlights. The ball clearly moved and in my mind, having played a few rounds of golf, there is no way he didn't realize it moved. It was clear as day.

I'm going to embed the video below. Tiger even gives away the fact that heknows it moved as he pauses right when it happens. He's throwing sticks, moves the ball and then stops for a few seconds sort of being like, "Oh sh**, that's a 2-stroke penalty." then he probably realizes, "well i'm in the woods, no one saw it. Let's go."

But it clearly moved and he knows it moved. The guy is not ethical. I seriously doubt when you are very much focused trying to move a stick 2 inches from the ball that you aren't 100% aware of the slightest movement as the whole point is to try to 100% make sure it doesn't move.

He knew it and didn't report it. He's lucky it was only two shots.

Video below:

I dunno. Looks like he was going to move the stick but noticed it was too attached to the ball. So then he decided not to try to move the stick. Looks like the ball shifted in place, but no actual movement. I see no reason to badmouth him over this.

pffft....videos can be edited to make anything look possible. Hell, I once saw a video of guys on the moon!

esesse wrote:

I dunno. Looks like he was going to move the stick but noticed it was too attached to the ball. So then he decided not to try to move the stick. Looks like the ball shifted in place, but no actual movement. I see no reason to badmouth him over this.

My thoughts exactly. He's about to move the stick and then realizes it'll move the ball if he does. I watched the rest of the video expecting to see him move the ball because everyone said it moved.

Stupid rule. You're allowed to mark the ball position on the green and actually pick it up .

esesse wrote:

I dunno. Looks like he was going to move the stick but noticed it was too attached to the ball. So then he decided not to try to move the stick. Looks like the ball shifted in place, but no actual movement. I see no reason to badmouth him over this.

I feel the same way. Honestly, the ball barely looks like it moved, and it does look like he was thinking about moving the stick, but realized that it was going to move the ball. People blowing this way out of proportion.

Epic fail on embedding that video rojo. Losers who go back through video looking for golf infractions to call in are pretty much the biggest tools on the face of the earth.

As for Vonn, since when is making out cheating? Unless she was making out with his erect penis I see no problem and I'm sure man whore tiger won't either.

I seriously don't see the ball move at all...confused am I.

People see what they want to see.

Perhaps tiger should hire Will Smith...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mk2Tca88Xo&list=PL7j49HhGOkKb92a5q7YGX7bHCqXWx_7B1

Cheating is cheating... Just because you're the front runner on an xc course doesn't give you the right to cut said course.

Neither does choosing when to observe the rules and when not to observe them on a golf course because your famous and ranked #1.

And, why shouldn't someone retroactively correct this "mistake." HE should have called the penalty on himself, so (if he's going to lie and screw others)then others should report it and post videos. The same thing everyone does when runners cheat!

AYE, AYE, AYE, look the emperor wears no clothes! said the child...

rojo wrote:

Well then you clearly haven't seen the video.

Tiger even gives away the fact that he knows it moved as he pauses right when it happens. He's throwing sticks, moves the ball and then stops for a few seconds sort of being like, "Oh sh**, that's a 2-stroke penalty." then he probably realizes, "well i'm in the woods, no one saw it. Let's go."

Rojo is right. Tiger clearly moves the ball, pauses, probably thinking, "Oh crap. that's a two-stroke penalty," before realizing, "Hey i'm in the woods no one can see me."

Zero ethics. So amazing he got caught.

skyart wrote:

[quote]esesse wrote:

Looks like the ball shifted in place, but no actual movement. I see no reason to badmouth him over this.

If this was a court of law and that was Tiger's defense, the prosecution would rest as you just admitted to the crime.

If the ball shifts at all, it's a two-stroke penalty.End of story.

All I'm saying is he looks like a cheater. if you want to assing moral goodness or badness to cheating, that's up to you.

newtrollhandle wrote:

I seriously don't see the ball move at all...confused am I.

and

skyart wrote:

People see what they want to see.

Guys and gals,

Now i know what you are talking about. Don't watch the video here. Go full screen or watch it on tv. It's clear as day that the ball moves. You probably can't see it 300 pixels wide if you don't push the go full screen link.

You're wrong, Rojo. The poster before you was assuming that it shifted, but did not move. If that's what Tiger thought he saw, he didn't cheat. He may have been wrong, and he may have bee subject to a penalty, but "cheating" requires intent.

No major sport is clean. Not a one. Not even close.

It was hard for me to accept this - only flipped this year - but it's made life easier. I can watch something on TV and not get all stressed about the results. It's just entertainment.

Are they doping? Cheating on field? Was the ref bribed? Is the equipment illegal? Is the result fixed? In any given case, I don't know. But overall, some of the above will apply. Always.

Just accept it.

Tryon Creek wrote:

The poster before you was assuming that it shifted, but did not move. If that's what Tiger thought he saw, he didn't cheat.

I did some more research, blogs.golf.com says "Woods was reportedly surprised at the penalty, and told rules officials he thought the ball oscillated without changing position."

SO i guess if the ball moves but comes back it's ok, but to me that ball clearly does more than oscillate. It rolls a little wodds. There really is no such thing as an oscillating balls that stays in the same place.

I am not saying that Tiger intended to cheat and move the ball. I'm saying he tried to move the stick, inadvertently moved the ball and then knowingly cheated by not reporting it.I mean it would infuriate me as well if I was him that the stupid rule is worth 2 points but they have to rules like htat or everyone would just move all sorts of crap.