coach wrote:
AMY Carter, Chelsea Clinton
Right. I knew Chelsea didn't sound right.
coach wrote:
AMY Carter, Chelsea Clinton
Right. I knew Chelsea didn't sound right.
Icelsnd has very low masqulinity quotient due to very low testosterone.Result,low crime rate,low achievement in any
masculine activity.
Iceland was once populated by strong, hearty Vikings who were kicked out of Norway for bad behavior.
But eventually all the bad-behavers were kicked out of Iceland too, leaving a gene pool of festering pusillanimity on that barren scab of an isle.
To find the real Vikings you must follow the trail of where they were kicked out of and where they went next. Western Vikings went from Iceland to Greenland, then Canada, then Minnesota. When they were kicked out of Minnesota they dispersed throughout the country and strengthened the gene pool considerably. There are real men in America, but not in Iceland. That is why America is more violent.
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Probable because the government of Iceland doesn't count it.
douglas burke wrote: lets say haile gebreselassie and his family wife and at least 5 children (black youths as politically correct people say) bought a home right next to yours do you think, would you feel threatened? would you move from the neighborhood?
what would he be doing here? would he be training high school students how to run better? would he be bringing capital to start new businesses? i think what he's doing right now is fine, and he's needed in his own country of ethiopia. i think he employs over 1,000 people.
it would be nice having dr. martin luther king, jr. as your next-door neighbor. therefore open the flood gates and allow all poor, uneducated, unskilled, muslim pakistanis to move in with your daughters.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17993003look at the men's faces. are you really sure you want to use geb to argue for unrestricted, unmonitored, unsupervised immigration?
Troll look up the world's strongest man this tiny nation dominated the contest. Granted everybody that did this juiced and still does. But once again your racist biases show without getting banned!
Bad Wigins wrote:
Iceland was once populated by strong, hearty Vikings who were kicked out of Norway for bad behavior.
But eventually all the bad-behavers were kicked out of Iceland too, leaving a gene pool of festering pusillanimity on that barren scab of an isle.
To find the real Vikings you must follow the trail of where they were kicked out of and where they went next. Western Vikings went from Iceland to Greenland, then Canada, then Minnesota. When they were kicked out of Minnesota they dispersed throughout the country and strengthened the gene pool considerably. There are real men in America, but not in Iceland. That is why America is more violent.
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Perhaps you should walk around Iceland sometime...highest concentration of ultra-strong guys..a ton of massive, incredibly (and naturally) powerful 6'5"-6-6" 300+ pounders, with a goodly amount of guys like this...6'9" 420 lbs...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2648986/Game-Of-Thrones-Haf-r-Bj-rnsson-proves-THAT-bloody-battle-lifting-1000-lbs.htmlGuy would rip off the head of any American protein-shake bloated "tough guy"
Violent crime Is non existent, but Iceland is very far from to be declared a happy country. People Is more depressed than half of the counries.
Icelanders are famous for getting blazing drunk every Friday and Saturday night, all year long. They litter the streets with broken bottles. The following morning the streets are swept clean as if it never happened.
lpd wrote:
Because Iceland is irrelevant in the world.What good has ever come out
out of Iceland.Name one athlete from Iceland that has ever won anything.
Of course it is an all white country,so athletic abilities are in very short
supply.
Iceland would have won the 1994 Junior Goodwill Games had it not been for Gordon Bombay's shenanigans... switching player's jersey numbers, players lassoing other players and substituting goalies in the middle of a shootout. The team even wore Duck jerseys rather than USA jerseys after intermission. Embarrassing all around effort for the USA. Everyone knows that Iceland deserved to win that game.
Vilhjálmur Einarsson- Silver TJ 1956Vala Flosadóttir- Bronze PV 2000
Kanye North wrote:
lpd wrote:Name one athlete from Iceland that has ever won anything.
Olafur Thordarson was an Olympic medalist in track in one of the early Olympics (1912) cite please
Island did not become independent until 1918.
The only Olafurs I find are hand ballers and the most successful was Ólafur Stefánsson on the 2004,2008 and 2012 team with the 2008 team taking a Silver to France's Gold (28-23).
Iceland.....they're all related.
lpd wrote:
Icelsnd has very low masqulinity quotient due to very low testosterone.Result,low crime rate,low achievement in any
masculine activity.
Hi, uton.
Other than being a small mainly rural or suburban country with plenty of space where everyone knows each other?
It must be tolerance. The Icelanders are incredibly tolerant. I've seen how they tolerate the crass behaviour of American tourists, shouting, yelling, making stupid remarks, leaving gates open, dropping litter, asking stupid questions, wearing awful clothes, etc.. The Icelanders are incredibly tolerant of diversity, a wide range of which in behavioural terms is provided by American tourists.
makes no sense wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22288564I don't understand how such a non-diverse country could be so harmonious?
Sociology studies show that anti-social behavior and violence increases with crowding and overpopulation. That is easy to verify in human and other animal societies and populations.
Why do people kill? Because they are not settled about something. It seems Icelandic people are comfortable.
I actually spent some time in Iceland, it is a strange place in some respects and quite interesting in some other respects. Violent crime is largely a product of urban poor areas, which Iceland does not have; the drug culture, which Iceland does not have and access to guns, which Iceland does not have. Easy access the Guns, Povery, Urban and Drugs is the perfect mixture for violent crime; this applies no matter where you go and no matter what race.
break it up wrote:
Every weekend in Cleveland and Detroit and Toledo and Chicago and NYC and Atlanta a black person shoots and kills another black person.
You can't compare this situation with Iceland.
Inner city blacks that grew up in poverty and a culture that promotes a gangster mindset. The pull is hard when that is all they see growing up.
Its a very big mess in this country.
I never needed or wanted to own a gun. Other than a shotgun to kill groundhogs.
I am disgusted when I hear of these incidences of young people getting into disputes and everybody pulls out their handguns in these cities.
I guess that is their 2nd Amendment right. Lock and load.
That is really food for thought, so to speak. I agree with you 100%. But how do we stop it? or at least lessen it.
It's not gun laws- these are the people getting them illegally anyway.
We can poor money into schools (as in NY State) but the kids simply do not want to learn. I've tried to teach some, believe me.
It's their culture and how do you change that?
[quote]mittcain wrote:
You should have read the article you posted more closely. Let me help:
"First - and arguably foremost - there is virtually no difference among upper, middle and lower classes in Iceland. And with that, tension between economic classes is non-existent, a rare occurrence for any country."
This is the truth. Once the government provides everyone with the basic needs, creativity and entrepreneurship are severely stunted. Dependence does not allow for want in very many ways. Therefore a lack of progress. Low crime rate is a positive side effect.
My wife is from Iceland and we spent a month their last summer staying with family. That month was perhaps the best month in the last 10-15 years of my life.
Observations
1. Class - This is probably the biggest factor. I whole heartedly agree with the posters who cite social class (or lack of poverty) as the #1 factor in the relative tranquility of the country. My wife has cousins who are very wealthy and cousins who are working class. The guy we spent the most time with had worked for Isbank, which was demolished in the 2008 financial collapse. It was obvious that he was not wealthy, even struggling financially. However, he had also started his own currency exchange business. It wasn't making him any money, but he had the ethic of an upper middle class type person. I disagree wholeheartedly with the poster who said that government support deadens entrepreneurship. Iceland has one of the highest rates of small business ownership anywhere. If anything, the social safety net has made people unafraid to try their hands in business. If the business fails, go on public assistance for a bit, find a new job or start a new business, and move on.
2. Geographical Isolation - I don't think anyone has mentioned it on the thread yet, but it is hard to sneak guns and drugs into a country that is so geographically isolated. They have one international airport and according to the cousins, the Icelandic authorities have been intercepting people with known criminal connections (I think the people the cousins were talking about were Danish Gang types) and putting them right back on planes where they came from.
3. Immigration - This exists and is growing. It seems there were quite a few Filipino and Southeast Asian types there. The country is still relatively homogeneous, but that is changing. It will be interesting to see how crime rate stats change over the years.
4. Social Policy - Iceland has a tremendously high tax rate (40% income, 25% sales) and it seems that the revenue generated is put to good use. From the aforementioned cleaning up after friday/saturday binge drinking to the fact that I saw precisely one pothole on the roads while I was there, the government works quickly and efficiently. Perhaps the best use of tax dollars that I saw when I was there was a program where youths, aged 13-17 were guaranteed summer jobs through the city. My wife's cousin, Valur, had a 13 year old son, who was getting ready to start his first job for the city. The kids work only a small amount of time, but they gain job skills that will prepare them to be productive adults. There were kids all over the place doing things like picking up trash, painting walls and fences, mowing highway medians, teaching sports classes, working as lifeguards, and the list goes on. There is an extensive safety net for people like my wife's cousin who had lost his job with Isbank. I don't know if he was taking public assistance while we were there, but the option was available should he and his daughter have needed the help.
5. Education - Iceland has one of the highest literacy rates and the highest literary rate in the world. Icelander's write more books per capita than anybody. Being poorly educated is certainly looked down upon by the majority of the population. This seemed the unanimous consensus of the family members I talked to.
6. Athletics - For those who said the Icelanders aren't good at sport, you don't know what you are talking about. Every decent sized town has some sort of sports club. The town we stayed in, Hafnarfjordur (pop 30,000) had two. The club we visited had: a professional soccer team, which had just won the Icelandic League's Championship. The club had its own farm system (as do most clubs). So, the guys who played on the professional team, mostly grew up in that club's (FH) system. Professional Handball. Handball is kind of Iceland's national sport. Iceland won the 2008 Olympic Silver Medal. My wife's cousin, Loyie (don't remember how to spell it) was on that team and his silver medal is on display in the club's trophy case. They had a youth track and field team, a gymnastics team, and a burgeoning basketball team. The rival club from Hafnarfjordur had an olympic sized pool and a miniature indoor waterpark as well as it's own set of professional teams. We were able to work out at the FH club every day (Wife's Grandpa was the founder and her uncle is the GM). Every day we saw tons of kids there practicing various sports.
7. Swimming Pools - I didn't know whether to put this in the athletic or social program category, so I gave it its own category. Even the smallest towns have beautiful, clean swimming pools (and facilities to go along with such as showers, hot tubs, water slides, and saunas). These pools are very inexpensive. It cost me a couple of bucks to swim there and only about a dollar for my son. We went almost daily, because my son is on a swim team here, and he didn't want to lose fitness. The pools are a social hub. The hot tubs serve as the setting for social interaction, business deals, and the birth of romances. Everybody has to take a shower, fully naked, and scrub their genitals and armpits with soap before entering the pools. Perhaps there is something about showering with your neighbors that fosters a sense of community.
8. Parks and public open space (within the cities, as opposed to all of the open space outside of the cities.) Every town and city has numerous parks that provide for recreation and leisure time. Whereas in my hometown, only the poorer residents utilize parks (because the ones who can afford it will rent a place or use their own homes and large back yards, for gatherings), in Iceland, the park seems like an egalitarian type of place. Whenever the weather got the least bit sunny, the parks would be flooded with families (when the weather is crappy, people go to the public, heated pools).
So, yeah, here in the states we have violent crime, it is concentrated in the poorer communities (which tend to be home to minorities) but the differences between our two countries can hardly be explained by the presence of furiners and negros. Sorry to burst your bubble, xenophobes.