Why don't you talk to him or the teammate about it first? Don't be an anonymous coward
Why don't you talk to him or the teammate about it first? Don't be an anonymous coward
You mention the AC was "on a trip." Why wouldn't he be if it's a school "trip" to some relays for eg?
I wouldn't tell anyone but the head coach. See what he/she says?
In my experience chicks that get in relationships with coaches do not perform well.
The female logic behind it is so that they can have a leg up on their team mates, even though track and field does not work that way. A beautiful woman still has to perform.
I don't know if this is a common saying, but in female sports you can't F**k your way into the finals.
"high moral aptitude"?
Get over yourself.
you are all adults. this isn't middle school. people live their lives how they see fit. if something happens, they will have to deal with it. but don't out the guy and ruin him. like i said, you're all adults.
Give this story to your local News media.
complex question wrote:
Are those of us with a high moral aptitude obligated to tell someone in the Athletic Department?
How can anyone have an "aptitude" for morals?
i see a couple of problems here; not just the situation itself, but that you're asking for ethical advice on letsrun. but what the heck, it's spring break and i've got time...
1) how are you SURE there is a relationship?
2) if you're asking the question, you probably already know the answer but lack courage to act.
3) it may be worth it to see if the school has a conduct policy for its coaches. i would imagine it does, and i would imagine it's being violated.
4) yes they're adults, but the coach is in a position of power that could ultimately affect the athlete's performance and racing opportunities. and yes, i think the university setting is completely different than the open/professional setting where relationships are obviously established on more equal ground...
5) i'm not trying to judge the coach, nor am i saying the coach is going to hell, but i suspect this may be a fireable offense. i also suspect the coach knows this.
complex question wrote:
I run for a D1 school. Our assistant coach is in a relationship with one of the female athletes. Most of us on the team are aware of what's going on especially after this last weekend's trip where he was there. Are those of us with a high moral aptitude obligated to tell someone in the Athletic Department? If so, how do you report this?
Does your coach coach the women's team as well or just men? If he just coaches men, then technically he may be in the clear.
from a real world perspective wrote:
you are all adults. this isn't middle school. people live their lives how they see fit. if something happens, they will have to deal with it. but don't out the guy and ruin him. like i said, you're all adults.
Spot on.
just because it's a fireable offense doesn't mean it should be reported.
This crap happens all the time. If they are in college, they are both over 18.
What benefit does telling the AD have for anyone? What if they are truly meant for each other and you get the guy fired for it?
This is not your place, if anyone is in a position to be mad, it could be her parents. And even they should understand their daughter isn't theirs to control.
Basically if you say something to the AD you're a life ruining douche.
Oh, so you're THAT guy. Remind me not to do anything questionable around you. Dont want the ethics police knocking on my door.
doo doo wrote:
just because it's a fireable offense doesn't mean it should be reported.
This crap happens all the time. If they are in college, they are both over 18.
What benefit does telling the AD have for anyone? What if they are truly meant for each other and you get the guy fired for it?
This is not your place, if anyone is in a position to be mad, it could be her parents. And even they should understand their daughter isn't theirs to control.
Basically if you say something to the AD you're a life ruining douche.
It still amazes me when people see no problems with these arrangements.
hmmm.
o.k., i'm not one to always assume that rules and laws have an ethical foundation. so, is there a moral/ethical foundation for rules governing coaches/professors at a university having relationships with their charges? i, for one, believe there is, for the reasons i stated in an earlier post. that is ultimately the question that needs to be considered by the op. maybe some universities have a process for disclosing these relationships like some workplaces do.
i am also open to the possibility that this ethical foundation is debatable, and that it is only my cultural background and the fact that i'm a father with a daughter close to college age and/or the fact that i'm a high school teacher that make this whole issue just seem a little improper or icky, to use a technical term. however, "this crap happens all the time," and "this is not your place" are horrible arguments in favor of doing nothing...
if they're truly meant for each other, why would his getting fired interfere with that?
Exactly. First the coach is not being paid to have sex with the athletes. Its a bad image for the school.
Second, its unfair to the other female athletes.
Third, it is extremely bad for the individual athlete's performance most of the time.
Lastly the parents.
Yes they're both over 18. Yes, nothing illegal happened. No that does not make it right.
Fourth, he's in a position of authority over her which raises concerns about consent.
socal cush wrote:
hmmm.
o.k., i'm not one to always assume that rules and laws have an ethical foundation. so, is there a moral/ethical foundation for rules governing coaches/professors at a university having relationships with their charges? i, for one, believe there is, for the reasons i stated in an earlier post. that is ultimately the question that needs to be considered by the op. maybe some universities have a process for disclosing these relationships like some workplaces do.
i am also open to the possibility that this ethical foundation is debatable, and that it is only my cultural background and the fact that i'm a father with a daughter close to college age and/or the fact that i'm a high school teacher that make this whole issue just seem a little improper or icky, to use a technical term. however, "this crap happens all the time," and "this is not your place" are horrible arguments in favor of doing nothing...
if they're truly meant for each other, why would his getting fired interfere with that?
Sounds like it is bothering the OP.
I think OP's first step is to find out the school's policy.
Second step is to absolutely report it if it is violating school policy (most likely is, in today's world).
I wonder some if the OP is jealous?
Well, I guess I have to give such an obvious (to me) troll 3/10 here. There are apparently several serious responses.
4/10 for all the serious responses offered.
mwosl wrote:
Exactly. First the coach is not being paid to have sex with the athletes. Its a bad image for the school.
Second, its unfair to the other female athletes.
Third, it is extremely bad for the individual athlete's performance most of the time.
Lastly the parents.
Yes they're both over 18. Yes, nothing illegal happened. No that does not make it right.
It is unfair to the other female athletes? I am sure he would let them join, if they would only ask.