How much are academics taken into consideration if You're a sub 9 guy?

Stanford and the ivies are the only ones who wouldn't accept you.

The rest would as long as your grades aren't complete garbage like football or basketball players.

Most distance runners have good grades though.

Sub 9 for what distance?

Oh no wrote:

Sub 9 for what distance?

3200

I lol-ed

if you have above a 2.3 GPA. 20 on ACT 950 on SAT you should be good.

basically if you qualify with the NCAA clearinghouse

i 2 iz stoopid wrote:

if you have above a 2.3 GPA. 20 on ACT 950 on SAT you should be good.

basically if you qualify with the NCAA clearinghouse

This is not even remotely correct. Many distance coaches care about the academic prospects of student athletes and will not recruit someone who is unlikely to succeed academically at their school. The coach's assessment will depend to some degree on how serious he/she perceives you to be about school, what subject you intend to study, and what factors might explain sub-par HS academics.

Depends greatly on the school. The hypothetical sub-9 guy would email the coaches and ask.

So, in other words, OP is a f'ing moron.

Homey wrote:

Hypothetically let's say I'm a sub 9 guy, and am looking around at colleges. How much could I get away with academically to get accepted into a top tier school?

Examples of colleges this hypothetical me would be interested in:

Texas

Wisco

UCLA

Stanford

Florida State

Thanks in advance mengs

Every school other than Stanford on that list would almost definitely let you in with the minimum NCAA clearinghouse numbers. Stanford definitely lowers the admission standards for athletes, but its done a case by case basis depending on how much the coaches want you. As a sub 9 guy, you'd probably only need an above average test score and GPA.

Stanford let in Elway, and he is a drunk moron, with a howitzer for an arm.

NCAA experience wrote:

i 2 iz stoopid wrote:

if you have above a 2.3 GPA. 20 on ACT 950 on SAT you should be good.

basically if you qualify with the NCAA clearinghouse

This is not even remotely correct. Many distance coaches care about the academic prospects of student athletes and will not recruit someone who is unlikely to succeed academically at their school. The coach's assessment will depend to some degree on how serious he/she perceives you to be about school, what subject you intend to study, and what factors might explain sub-par HS academics.

This might be true in D3. With money on the line at a scholarship school that isn't on the Ivy level, they'll take this hypothetical sub-9er.

I was an NCAA coach at a D1 school with a good (not great) program at a state university (not on the OP's list) that was academically of similar rank. I would have favored a 9:15 guy with good grades before the sub 9 with poor grades, unless the sub 9:00 guy had believable reasons to expect that he'd do well in college. I did not recruit anyone who barely made the clearinghouse standards. In distance, it's not hard to find good runners with good academic performance. The combination is a good indicator of an excellent work ethic that will lead to progression in college.

A 2.3 GPA won't get you into Stanford no matter what times you run, just as a 9:30 2 mile won't get you into NBN no matter how good your grades are.

Look at the top women in the NCAA for examples of good runners with good grades.

Homey wrote:

Hypothetically let's say I'm a sub 9 guy, and am looking around at colleges. How much could I get away with academically to get accepted into a top tier school?

Examples of colleges this hypothetical me would be interested in:

Texas

Wisco

UCLA

Stanford

Florida State

Thanks in advance mengs

Stanford - no

UCLA - maybe

The rest - yes

I went to a school that turned away a sub 9 guy because of academics (I wish they hadn't) and it wasn't Stanford or an Ivy, but I think most schools would let you on.

It all depends. Are you trying to get away with a 1000 SAT and 2.7 GPA, or a 1200 SAT and a 3.2 GPA?