DIII New England Track 2012-2013

this is a steep improvement curve:

http://www.directathletics.com/athletes/track/2760074.html

holy hell.

Good try, McCloskey.

yarbles wrote:

this is a steep improvement curve:

http://www.directathletics.com/athletes/track/2760074.html

holy hell.

nice race at regionals, mccloskey

flagstaff wrote:

nice race at regionals, mccloskey

snap. good one, wahome.

Who is going to make it from NE in the 5k? Do the times come from a banked track or flat track? Will there be pacers? Any early races?

Hannan and Leduc for sure.

I remember Mcclosky's mile at BU. He went out in like 2:00 for the first half mile with his coach just telling him to keep up the pace. He died off hard obviously for a solid 2:00-2:14

CT reppin wrote:

Who is going to make it from NE in the 5k? Do the times come from a banked track or flat track? Will there be pacers? Any early races?

Honestly, with the new conversion system (http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/index.php/special-articles/1385), I suspect a lot of qualifiers are going to have to come off of flat tracks. It'll be interesting to see how the region responds to this; likely the championship meets will be a lot less tactical and a lot more focused on hitting times. An 8 second conversion is pretty bullshit for the 5k where you're running in basically a flat lane the entire race.

Also, on the topic of NE DMR dominance, that might be going out the window too. A lot of teams used to use BU and the Armory for qualifying, but again with the new conversion factor of 7 seconds for a basically flat race I expect a lot of last chance qualifiers to be held on flat tracks. A team (like Tufts last year) running 9:58 at BU (which used to guarantee a top 10 spot) would now give you a time of 10:05, or about 20th.

It seems like distance events in New England are getting punished for having the most competitive races on banked tracks, just because the Midwest can't be bothered to put up a decent facility. It'll be interesting to see who can put fast times down on flat tracks, if anyone at all, or if the Midwest is right and we've just been "getting fat off our banked tracks".

the DIII banked track conversions are BS. Imagine if they did that for DI.

they are the same conversions in DI

I've heard some rumblings of attempts to stack some flat track meets/last chance meets the ECAC weekend. What it bates' track like? perhaps people will go hard at DIIIs

How to be a New England track runner:

1) Run mediocre times

2) Start "DIII New England Track 20xx" thread

3) Talk yourself and your team up. Post at least 10 times per week under different names.

4) Bitch about how the Midwest gets better conversions and how banked tracks are so good and how the East coast is the best.

5) Review 2012 indoor results:

Midwest champs: 400, 800, mile, 5000, 4X400

East coast champs: DMR

Least Coast wrote:

How to be a New England track runner:

1) Run mediocre times

2) Start "DIII New England Track 20xx" thread

3) Talk yourself and your team up. Post at least 10 times per week under different names.

4) Bitch about how the Midwest gets better conversions and how banked tracks are so good and how the East coast is the best.

5) Review 2012 indoor results:

Midwest champs: 400, 800, mile, 5000, 4X400

East coast champs: DMR

You forgot 1.5) Get admitted to one of the most selective small colleges in the country.

and 6) Review results of Rhodes Scholarships and Fulbright Fellowships.

You forgot 1.5) Get admitted to one of the most selective small colleges in the country.

and 6) Review results of Rhodes Scholarships and Fulbright Fellowships.[/quote]

Maybe try to quantify "most selective small colleges" and "results of Rhodes Scholarships."

Funny how whenever the subject of East Coast athletic mediocrity comes up, the default answer is "But...but we have better academics!" Ya'll some jokers.

Least Coast wrote:

You forgot 1.5) Get admitted to one of the most selective small colleges in the country.

and 6) Review results of Rhodes Scholarships and Fulbright Fellowships.

Maybe try to quantify "most selective small colleges" and "results of Rhodes Scholarships."

Funny how whenever the subject of East Coast athletic mediocrity comes up, the default answer is "But...but we have better academics!" Ya'll some jokers.[/quote]

number 1. simply not true.

2. Isn't that part of the fun? trash talking other teams and being interested in discussions about the sport?

3. Extremely exaggerated, but see point 2. Also hilarious, because all midwest guys seem to do on letsrun is get pissy at new england.

4.funny when the east coast lays down fast times, the midwest answer was "but...but their tracks are too fast and unfair! There is no way the midwest might not actually run all the fast times!" and then promptly changed the rules.

5. If I seem to recall correctly, the east coast had some fine performances at nationals. this is also a stupid argument because of the luck involved. I am sure you could make a convincing argument over the years for the midwest, but if scheetz doesn't get injured, then last year might look very different. East coast had some good performances, midwest was just a bit better last year. No need to be a douche canoe about it.

in conclusion:

9/10

Extremely good trolling, and sure to get responses, but no real solid arguments presented. Might I suggest you start your own thread for this discussion? This one is about new england track and field. There is already a thread for arguing over track conversions and which region is better.

I don't care about Midwest vs Northeast. Both have very talented runners in all events that will make Nationals exciting to watch.

Did someone honestly post on this thread to rip on people coming to a RUNNING FORUM to discuss how their region is going to do in track and cross country? Gosh, I can't understand why he'd be surprised that the NE schools would want to discuss how they are all going to do in the upcoming track season. How shocking.

Here's an idea: instead of posting in the NE thread about how much NE sucks, create a Midwest D3 track 2013 thread and discuss your region there. Then, all the regions can go to the D3 track 2013 results and talk nationally. Voila

Also, I don't think many people in NE wouldn't admit that the Midwest is generally better at distance running, but who cares? New England is pretty darn good and obviously has a lot of people interested in discussing running, so just shut up and let us do it.

Also, it's funny whenever the subject of Midwest academic mediocrity comes up, the default answer is, "But...but we have better distance running in division 3 where basically zero people ever go pro!"

Least Coast wrote:

How to be a New England track runner:

1) Run mediocre times

2) Start "DIII New England Track 20xx" thread

3) Talk yourself and your team up. Post at least 10 times per week under different names.

4) Bitch about how the Midwest gets better conversions and how banked tracks are so good and how the East coast is the best.

5) Review 2012 indoor results:

Midwest champs: 400, 800, mile, 5000, 4X400

East coast champs: DMR

How to be a Midwest track runner:

1)run solid times

2)check results from NE

3)refuse to believe that anyone outside the Midwest could also run solid times.

4)Bitch about banked tracks on Letsrun

5)Continue bitching until NCAA changes conversions.

6)Graduate and go to work for the same company as a former East coast runner.

7)1st day of work, exited to discuss merits of banked tracks with your co-worker.

8)Janitors aren't allowed on the executive floor.

9)Sad face

hey lets just talk about new england track and field? this is literally the most annoying conversation I've ever read on this website

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