Anyone else think the Kenyan importing is getting ridiculous?

EZ10Miler wrote:

Most avid runners can't name top athletes because they are all foreign. Why do you think everyone just refers to them as "the Kenyans". They are faceless nameless athletes all glumped into one bunch.

Are most avid baseball players unable to name Miguel Cabrera, David Ortiz, Mariano Rivera, or Felix Hernandez because they're all foreign? Is baseball getting killed because of "the Latinos"?

[quote]the bigger question wrote:

Interesting thought, but if Americans want to win NCAA XC titles, they need to work and train harder. Don't blame it on the Africans.

What a douche bag you've got to be if you refuse to acknowledge the fact that most Africans are epo users and most of the collegiate Africans come in as freshman as 22 year olds.... epo and age are tremendous advantages and, gee, i'm tired of sayining so, but if you fail to acknowledge these facts you are a major douche bag.

the bigger douche bag wrote:

[quote]the bigger question wrote:

Interesting thought, but if Americans want to win NCAA XC titles, they need to work and train harder. Don't blame it on the Africans.

What a douche bag you've got to be if you refuse to acknowledge the fact that most Africans are epo users and most of the collegiate Africans come in as freshman as 22 year olds.... epo and age are tremendous advantages and, gee, i'm tired of sayining so, but if you fail to acknowledge these facts you are a major douche bag.

Age is not that important obviously. Isn't there a freshman running right now that could win the women's individual title? Just a few years ago, Derrick, Puskedra, and Fernandez were all in the top 10 or 15 as freshmen. Before them, Ritz and Webb were up there too as freshmen.

Age ain't nothing but a number.

the bigger douche bag wrote:

What a douche bag you've got to be if you refuse to acknowledge the fact that most Africans are epo users and most of the collegiate Africans come in as freshman as 22 year olds.... epo and age are tremendous advantages and, gee, i'm tired of sayining so, but if you fail to acknowledge these facts you are a major douche bag.

Those aren't facts, they're bigoted opinions.

george oscar bluth wrote:

What are you advocating for World XC? Banning the Africans from competing so that Europeans can win again and be Europeans will want to watch it? No thanks.

I wasn't advocating anything. I was merely giving the reasons why the World XC has died a death.

Simply put, African dominance in the sport of distance running is damaging. That's not a racist or xenophobic comment, just a simple economic fact.

They are facts you just REFUSE TO ADMIT THEM. YOu are deceiving only yourself

Facts involve proof. Show me some proof.

trollism wrote:

george oscar bluth wrote:

What are you advocating for World XC? Banning the Africans from competing so that Europeans can win again and be Europeans will want to watch it? No thanks.

I wasn't advocating anything. I was merely giving the reasons why the World XC has died a death.

Simply put, African dominance in the sport of distance running is damaging. That's not a racist or xenophobic comment, just a simple economic fact.

Those aren't economic facts. They are dumb weak attempts at trolling.

xswes...please answer honestly..do you really believe age is not factor?...if so if Rupp skipped college and entered this year as a freshman, you believe there is no difference or advanage to this?

If the NCAA XC Championships are even on TV (doubtful), people will see 5 Kenyans 100 meters ahead of the American runners at the 2 mile mark, AND CHANGE THE CHANNEL.

Just the way it is, people want to watch what they can relate too, and a close competition.

Hopefully they will see the Women's division and lots of hotties battling it out! Unless a African girl goes out like mad, in which case once again, CLICK.

I don't think it is a problem. I can see how that is evident in cross country. But look at track last season. Cam Levins won the 10k and 5k. Andrew Bayer won the 1500m. They aren't Kenyan. The Kenyans are just more noticeable, because they are different. And cross country is a big thing in Kenya.

It's fine. And it will help Americans compete on a higher level.

dits astory wrote:

Just the way it is, people want to watch what they can relate too, and a close competition.

Why could people not relate to Kenyan runners? They relate to canadian hockey players and latino baseball players just fine.

dits astory wrote:

If the NCAA XC Championships are even on TV (doubtful), people will see 5 Kenyans 100 meters ahead of the American runners at the 2 mile mark, AND CHANGE THE CHANNEL.

Just the way it is, people want to watch what they can relate too, and a close competition.

Hopefully they will see the Women's division and lots of hotties battling it out! Unless a African girl goes out like mad, in which case once again, CLICK.

I just want to get a few things straight.

If people (Americans, I assume) were to see Cam Newton running away with the NCAA Cross Country Championships, they would see a Canadian crushing the Americans and CHANGE THE CHANNEL?

And, what if an African girl goes out like mad, but, she also happens to be a hottie? Or do you think that being African and being a hottie and mutually exclusive states?

Why could people not relate to Kenyan runners? They relate to canadian hockey players and latino baseball players just ________-----

fine.[/quote]

Canadian hockey players don't cheat with drugs so these gladiators are admired.... latino baseball players are admired as good/great players unless they use drugs and those that do use drugs are treated badly as they should be....Running officials do not want to catch, or acknowledge the use of drugs in distance running as they would come off as racists for catching so many poor, indigent, pathetic Africans...... Did you ever see a picture of Frank Shorter losing to an African? There are none as Frank whupped they asses before they found drug heaven with epo.

Trollist wrote:

The difference is that the kid from New York is likely to be white.

Nothing to do with that at all, foreign mean just that, dont put words in mouth just to take a cheap shot.

RuKiddingMe!! wrote:

xswes...please answer honestly..do you really believe age is not factor?...if so if Rupp skipped college and entered this year as a freshman, you believe there is no difference or advanage to this?

No advantage due to his age. The only advantage might be that he has been training for longer. That is an entirely different concept from how old someone is.

Look at all of the underclassmen in the NCAA. Obviously age is not that important. And reread my previous post about Fernandez, Derrick, Webb, Ritz, etc. Seriously come on, Fernandez won the outdoor 1500m as a freshman!

Dennis Reynolds wrote:

dits astory wrote:

Just the way it is, people want to watch what they can relate too, and a close competition.

Why could people not relate to Kenyan runners? They relate to canadian hockey players and latino baseball players just fine.

"The Kenyans" are a marketing nightmare. They generally look the same, speak only broken english, and eventually migrate back home to Africa. Even dedicated runners and fans of the sport have great difficulty telling them apart and keeping the names straight. Done let the PC brainwash keep you from seeing the truth.

Maybe I'm older and remember the first boom when runners actually followed the top stars. Now distance running is quite popular as an activity but very few know who's favored to win Boston or NYC, other than "some Kenyan".

EZ10Miler wrote:

Nothing to do with that at all, foreign mean just that, dont put words in mouth just to take a cheap shot.

How do you feel about all the foreigners in the NHL or all the Caribbean and Central American players in Major League Baseball? Do you believe they discourage Americans from playing or striving to make the big leagues and their national teams?

trollism wrote:

It's nowhere near the same situation at the moment, but African domination has essentially killed the World XC.

Whether it's destroyed your interest or not is irrelevant, it's been a massive turn-off for a large percentage of the viewing public around the world.

Going by this example, surely more Kenyans in the NCAA can only have a negative impact on the competition as a spectacle in the long run.

Your example does not prove anything except that most people hold an ignorant and racist viewpoint. Its because of people like YOU segregation and racism ever existed and continues to exist in america just because most hold a similar view does not make it right.

Just accept it you are a RACIST! and go on preaching about how you are an open minded and accepting person