Anyone else think the Kenyan importing is getting ridiculous?

Go back to stormfront and leave us alone.

If the Americans want to be better than the Africans, then they should train better. And the NCAA is not supposed to be all about Americans so I don't know what your point with that is supposed to be.

Clearly the OP is pretty young and doesn't know about UTEP back in the day.

everyone came from another island

if you want to see more native americans winning races go out to the reserves

Your ancestors were imported. Should have kept them out maybe at least these Kenyans have talent

I'm just a little more concerned about the number of dual citizens and Israeli loyalists place in positions of power throughout our political, financial, and justice systems than about Kenyan runners in our colleges.

How about you?

Interesting thought, but if Americans want to win NCAA XC titles, they need to work and train harder. Don't blame it on the Africans. They are looking for a better life. Don't blame the universities...they are just looking to field the best teams possible while exemplifying a world view in not only helping Americans, but helping others, not matter what nationality, achieve a better life.

Africans going to college here are much more likely to give back and help improve the lives of people in their societies. We get our degrees, buy a house, have kids, etc...its all very "me" oriented. Plenty of Africans start programs and donate money back to people who really need it, so that other people can have a chance at a better life.

I have met several African's in my life, while in college and after, some were athletes, some were not. I can tell you that there isn't one of them I would ever say anything negative about. They are good people.

First, it's Africans, not African's. Honestly, when are people going to stop using the apostrophe to pluralize words?

Other than your abuse of English grammar, I agree with your point. Coaches can and do get fired for not winning. Therefore, if I'm a college coach, I'm recruiting the best athletes I can get, and I don't care where they come from. It's job preservation.

I had a Kenyan teammate in college. One of the finest people I've ever known. He was humble, funny, generous, and a good student. My college experience was better for having known him. I suspect that these stories could be told many times over.

But yeah, let's kick them all out so whitey can win the NCAAs.

So it's only a problem when they're winning? If there were twice as many Africans but they all finished outside the top 10 then nobody would say anything.

What about all the Irish and Brits? O'Hare, Rooney, Goose, O'Neill could be "All American" this year.

You want the best you recruit the best. College hockey teams are full of Canadians and Europeans.

It's terribly short sighted and lazy to field a team full of foreign athletes.

Sure it's not illegal or against any NCAA rules, but it's bad for the sport. And yeah you can defend these "coaches" all you want but when it comes time to cut XC no one will notice. You've destroyed any hope of any infrastructure of support because all of your former runners are faceless Kenyans living on another continent.

Is a Kenyan who finishes in the top 40 of Nats called an All-American or an All-Kenyan?

EZ10Miler wrote:

It's terribly short sighted and lazy to field a team full of foreign athletes.

Is Oregon lazy because the vast majority of its cross country roster is from the other 49 states? Why can't they just recruit in state?

Yep. Too many damn kenyans.I don't dislike them personally or even grouped. But they are all overagers. You can't trust third world countries to keep proper age records (or even not falsify them) when there are suchbig opportunities on the line.

GET OUT OVERAGE KENYANS

I'd personally rather see Kenyans and other East Africans be brought over here on academic scholarships rather than athletic - if state money is going to be used to finance their educations, it would be nice be see a good investment that would perhaps help create more of a professional class of engineers, physicians, etc back in their home countries. I'm sure the current group of athletes are deriving some benefit from their US educations, but it's clear that the primary reason they have been brought over here is just to run and win races.

If you dont understand the difference then I guess you dont follow the sport.

thelalala wrote:

At the risk of sounding redneckish i'm just gonna say it...

Um, at the risk of sounding redneckISH? Sorry pal, you just sound like a redneck. No "ish" about it.

Can I assume that you feel the same about Nick Willis? Nate Brannen? Kevin Sullivan? Kendra Schaaf?

Of course you don't; you are a racist. The sooner you recognize this the sooner you can progress toward dealing with it.

EZ10Miler wrote:

If you dont understand the difference then I guess you dont follow the sport.

There is no difference. You recruit the best possible athletes, it doesn't matter where they are from. US development is helped by getting kids racing against top tier Kenyans in college, if they don't race them there how the hell are they ever going to be able to deal with such a rise in level as a pro?

EZ10Miler wrote:

If you dont understand the difference then I guess you dont follow the sport.

Explain it to me. State funded institution. What is the difference cost to Oregon tax payers to have a New Yorker on scholarship versus a Kenyan?