Anyone else think the Kenyan importing is getting ridiculous?

Agreed

Some of those Kenyan/Eritrean/whatever runners end up becoming Americans and helping out our running scene, anyway. Lagat and Meb come to mind.

It's nowhere near the same situation at the moment, but African domination has essentially killed the World XC.

Whether it's destroyed your interest or not is irrelevant, it's been a massive turn-off for a large percentage of the viewing public around the world.

Going by this example, surely more Kenyans in the NCAA can only have a negative impact on the competition as a spectacle in the long run.

why can't American college runners have their own championship? ....like HSers have Footlocker, FL and NXN is more popular than DI college XC championships...why? Fans want to see a U.S. championship

importing may help U.S. runners run, but it kills the fan base. You people are naive if you think other wise....and slowly you are killing our sport....sure we (xc sport) have increase in populary the last 10 years because of the internet, but if we continue to push Americans out of own championships you see no one at the races, expect the athletes and coaches....ever look at the views (count) of Flotrack videos after interviewing most Africans and foreigners (sometimes they care if they white foreigners which is sad...because I dont want to see them either)?....they are small, no one cares, they only care if someone like Rupp can complete, only then do see some interest other wise we going to slowly see fans pushed away....for what? To make our runners better....then what....the sport will dead by then or continue to die a slow dead if we don't change our atitude thoughts our fans.

We want fast Africans or foreigners, lets develope the ones born in this country! I can support that!

BTY: The only reason I am going to DI champs this year is because of the womens race...screw the men, you know why!

Are you saying the viewing public around the world watched or cared about World XC before African dominance? To quote Nelson, "HA HA".

trollism wrote:

It's nowhere near the same situation at the moment, but African domination has essentially killed the World XC.

Whether it's destroyed your interest or not is irrelevant, it's been a massive turn-off for a large percentage of the viewing public around the world.

Going by this example, surely more Kenyans in the NCAA can only have a negative impact on the competition as a spectacle in the long run.

the bigger question wrote:

Are you saying the viewing public around the world watched or cared about World XC before African dominance? To quote Nelson, "HA HA".

My point was self-explanatory for anyone with an ounce of sense.

By 'viewing public' I didn't mean the average man on the street, I meant people with an interest in watching cross country on the TV anyway. (A lot more in Europe than in the US).

A lot of those people have been turned off and now the event is a unwatched farce, despite still being touted as the toughest race in the world to win.

Message:

Are you saying the viewing public around the world watched or cared about World XC before African dominance? To quote Nelson, "HA HA".

Well, the media was there before and was interested in the sport...today they are not, very little coverage? Why....but Trollism is right!

Unless we see more balance it will continue a slow slow death.....sad sad sad to see the greatest sport died.

...havent you notice a lot countries who use to send teams dont now...the interest is gone...fans are gone, competitors are gone.....very few care about World XC....American elites dont care, dont go, and dont want to go....year by year the cancer grows because we believe it makes other runners better...okay...whatever....

Limited scholarship in this money should go TO AMERICANS. NOT KENYANS.

It makes absolute sense- if Americans can get full scholarships in other sports why would they ever go into distance running when they see a bunch of foreigners (who are probably mostly overage) just flying in, not speaking english, not doing classes (seriously they don't), and taking alll the damn spots!

Crap like this shows you are not a true fan of the sport. I don't care where the f*ck someone came from, I want to see the best race possible as should anyone who loves the sport. I also have a feeling that you would not care one bit if it was Nate Brannen and Alistar Cragg dueling it out but you can't stand Sambu and Lalang. Hmmmmmm

Sorry Lagat isn't a real American so don't joke. Or have you forgotten this so soon...

http://img.spokeo.com/public/900-600/bernard_lagat_2004_08_22.jpg

The fastest 1500 of 2004 was run SHOCKINGLY by Ol bernie "HGH Jaw" Lagat. In a KENYAN singlet. NOT AMERICAN- KENYAN

So Dennis are you more of a runner than you are an American? you moron

Also don't say SAMBU. it's dangerously like racist slang (SAMBO). You are clearly an extreme advocate for having foreign africans run in America stealing money from real Americans so you shouldn't be racaist. or i just you are just racist against white americans???!

trollism wrote:

My point was self-explanatory for anyone with an ounce of sense.

By 'viewing public' I didn't mean the average man on the street, I meant people with an interest in watching cross country on the TV anyway. (A lot more in Europe than in the US).

A lot of those people have been turned off and now the event is a unwatched farce, despite still being touted as the toughest race in the world to win.

What are you advocating for World XC? Banning the Africans from competing so that Europeans can win again and be Europeans will want to watch it? No thanks.

Golyq wrote:

Limited scholarship in this money should go TO AMERICANS. NOT KENYANS.

It makes absolute sense- if Americans can get full scholarships in other sports why would they ever go into distance running when they see a bunch of foreigners (who are probably mostly overage) just flying in, not speaking english, not doing classes (seriously they don't), and taking alll the damn spots!

As someone else said, if you feel this way, you should limit scholarships to IN STATE athletes, not US athletes. Scholarships are funded by State taxes (for public schools). Private schools should be able to recruit whoever they want.

"a bunch of foreigners (who are probably mostly overage) just flying in, not speaking english, not doing classes (seriously they don't), and taking alll the damn spots!"

That simply doesn't happen. You are a piece of work.

Wow, I didn't know you could steal something from someone that isn't even theirs? How are these scholarships for Americans? I thought they were for the most qualified runners. I bet you hate affirmative action when it comes to jobs in this country (I know I do) but you are for affirmative action when it comes to collegiate recruiting (not giving money to the most qualified)? These white HS runners are not entitled to these scholarships. They should earn them like they do academic scholarships.

Golyq wrote:

So Dennis are you more of a runner than you are an American? you moron

Or maybe he just isn't a p*ssy and wouldn't want Americans to win watered down races, like you would.

Uh state and federal governmetns give money between each other all the time. The important thing is it is AMERICAN money that should be going to AMERICANS not FOREIGNERS

Golyq wrote:

Uh state and federal governmetns give money between each other all the time. The important thing is it is AMERICAN money that should be going to AMERICANS not FOREIGNERS

The money is going to Americans you dolt. Lalang isn't getting paid to run at Arizona, he's just not paying anything. The scholarship money is still going to the University of Arizona.

I actually go to the meets...do you?

BYW; I stated above - "sometimes they care if they white foreigners which is sad...because I dont want to see them either"

BTW the irish, english, all of them can go home I don't want to see foreigner development their talent off the backs of Americans...... Did you know we have international meets already, Amricans are allow to complete in these meets.

Golyq wrote:

Uh state and federal governmetns give money between each other all the time. The important thing is it is AMERICAN money that should be going to AMERICANS not FOREIGNERS

The money can go to whoever the college wants to give it to. STFU.