Rate Derek Jeter

As a Red Sox fan I can't help my respect and admire Jeter. He's one of those guys who has never really given people a reason not to like him and he's been getting the job done in the biggest market in baseball for almost 2 decades. He's one of those guys that some Red Sox fans hate just because of the pinstripes but I would have loved to see him playing for the Red Sox.

As said by others, it won't be unanimous because some of the writers are toolbags, but he's first ballot without a doubt.

I am a career-long Yankee hater for what that is worth.

Jeter has been a very good player for a very long time, and has been a team leader and good in the clutch. But, I am not sure there has been a single year when he was the best SS in baseball, or perhaps even the best player on his own team.

He is a sure fire, deserving Hall of Famer. But, I can think of many, many players more deserving of getting 100% on the first vote than him.

I say he is good enough to be a first ballot selection though. Hard to say he is over-rated after saying that, but somehow he is.

Jeter is a HOFer for sure. I don't know where I rank him among shortstops, but I always liked the guy because he is a great hitter and from what most people say is one of the hardest workers in the game. He's also a leader and great with younger players, which I see as a big deal too.

That said, I don't think he is going to get 100 percent. The people that vote are fickle, but I will say he and Greg Maddux will be two guys that will come the closest over the next few years.

He cheated Flagpole. So did A-rod, so did every big name from 2000-2005.

It hurts, it hurt baseball, but a new crop of clean ball players have arrived.

Braun, Posey, Kemp, Longoria, Reyes, Upton are guys I know don't do drugs are great ball players and should be around for awhile.

Jeter is a side show.

Robert Griffin Jr III^2 wrote:

He cheated Flagpole. So did A-rod, so did every big name from 2000-2005.

It hurts, it hurt baseball, but a new crop of clean ball players have arrived.

Braun, Posey, Kemp, Longoria, Reyes, Upton are guys I know don't do drugs are great ball players and should be around for awhile.

Jeter is a side show.

Braun?

Yeah you gotta problem?

I am a young guy but I would have to say he is the greatest player that I have ever witnessed. The guy is an amazing player and a born winner. The crazy thing is that I doubt he is even close to done. Captain Clutch just knows how to get it done. The things he has done in his career are extraordinary and the way he has handled himself all this time is unmatched.

Robert Griffin Jr III^2 wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Braun

Yeah you gotta problem?

You referring to him as clean is funny.

Robert Griffin Jr III^2 wrote:

He cheated Flagpole. Jeter is a side show.

You have some evidence Jeter cheated. Just because he is having a good year at 38 does not make him a cheat. And note his prior two years really were not that bad.

To Mr. Obvious: Hard to evaluate glove: Jeter is a Shortstop, Biggio played second and the outfield. I will give you that he was better on the bases, stole in excess of 400.

ScottDye wrote:

You have some evidence Jeter cheated. Just because he is having a good year at 38 does not make him a cheat. And note his prior two years really were not that bad.

I assume you gave the same benefit to Lance Armstrong? Proof is irrelevant...people believe what they want to believe. Lance hasn't tested positive, and lost all his Tour titles. Ryan Braun did test positive and nobody cares, and he didn't lose his MVP award. This isn't Law & Order.

As a ballplayer - first ballot hall of famer but nowhere near unanimous.

As a ladies man - i think we can unanimously agree

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/13/derek-jeter-gift-baskets-women-one-night-stand_n_1147001.html

Luckily there are stats for this sort of thing. Derek Jeter is the 83rd most valuable player of all time. (likely to increase a bit as he plays longer). For comparison A-Rod is currently 17th.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/WAR_career.shtml

90ft wrote:

He's one of the worst distance runners ever!

... but an inspiration for a whole generation of future distance runners.

ryan foreman wrote:

A few thoughts.

Realistically I think Jeter will surpass Hank Aaron and retire #3 on the All time hits list.

But for all of Jeter's hits perhaps the the biggest reason he should be in the HOF is playing SS and being the undeniable team leader for years on a Yankee team winning multiple championships. So yes, I don't see any reason he shouldn't be first ballot HOF.

I am slightly worried that Jeter is taking some illegal substances. He may not be. Its very common and legitimate for older players to have a comeback season or two before they become washed up for real. But the more I followed Jeter this season it almost seemed a little too good to be true. He's hitting the ball like he is 28.

With the way PEDs have been around, it's hard not to think that perhaps Jeter is cheating. Man I hope not.

I agree with you that Jeter will probably finish #3 all time in hits...that is crazy insane. Assuming no cheating on his part, first ballot HOF is for sure...I just wonder if he can get the coveted 100% vote...I think he should...doesn't mean he's better than everyone else...just means that there's no way a logical person could say that he's not a first ballot hall of famer. He is that for sure.

How many players have gotten 100% of the vote?

Former Average Runner wrote:

How many players have gotten 100% of the vote?

ZERO. And that's crazy. Baseball writers are crazy. how could Hank Aaron not have gotten 100%?

Former Average Runner wrote:

How many players have gotten 100% of the vote?

See the list of percentages here -

The highest percentage vote getter ever was Cal Ripken Jr. Really? Tony Gwynn has a higher percentage than Babe Ruth. Tom Seaver is the highest vote getter ever. LOVE Tom Seaver, but he's not the best pitcher ever let alone the best player ever.

Baseball writers need to get over this thing that no one deserves 100% vote. Derek Jeter is a Hall of Famer without question, so he should get 100% of the vote.

ScottDye wrote:

To Mr. Obvious: Hard to evaluate glove: Jeter is a Shortstop, Biggio played second and the outfield. I will give you that he was better on the bases, stole in excess of 400.

Jeter, in his best years, was an average shortstop (reputation and gold gloves notwithstanding). For his career his was a worse than average shortstop.

Biggio also played premium defensive positions at Second base and center field and was a well above average defender for his career.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Jeter, in his best years, was an average shortstop (reputation and gold gloves notwithstanding). For his career his was a worse than average shortstop.

Biggio also played premium defensive positions at Second base and center field and was a well above average defender for his career.

What you say is completely unsupported by the facts.

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83. Derek Jeter (18, 38) 69.3 R

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129. Craig Biggio (20) 62.1 R

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WAR takes into account defense and position played and everything. It's amazing what you can do with facts.