Okay, let me simplify this for you.
Someone tell me what 80% of 100mph is.
Okay, let me simplify this for you.
Someone tell me what 80% of 100mph is.
80% of speed of 18.5 seconds per 100 meters is 18.5 seconds for 80 meters. 18.5secs/80meters equals 23.125seconds for 100 meters.
The guy is calculating percentage of speed incorrectly. IF he learned and believed these percentages of speed from some scientific findings he is applying them incorrectly.
1:48 = 54 second 400 meters
54 / .80 = 67.5 second 400 meters
Mplatt,
It must be a matter of perspective.
54 x .8 = 43.2
54 = 43.2 = 10.8
54 + 10.8 = 64.8
No you are wrong, Mplatt is correct.
Your problem:
400mt/54sec = 7.407mt/sec
7.407mt x .8 = 5.9259mt/sec
400mt/5.9259mt = 67.5sec
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2:10 marathon problem:
42195mt/2:10:00 (130min or 7800sec) = 324.577mt/min or 5.4096mt/sec or 4:57.4969/mile.
*100mt/5.4096mt = 18.4856sec/100mt..*this was the only correct information in the euro coaches post.
5.4096mt/sec x .8 = 4.32768mt/sec
1000mt/4.32768mt = 3:51.07/1000mt or 6:11.87/mile
Do you see where you went wrong? Don't confuse percentage of time with the percentage of velocity.
Listen guys these Euro coaches are not GOD.
Malmo check my math, I think I got it right.
c'mon you know what he meant.
54 x .80 = 6:11.87/mile ?
Renato Canova wrote:
Running on the track 5 times 3000m in 8:20 for a runner able to do 26:30 in 10000m, is something UNDER RHYTM, but is a SPECIFIC SUPPORT different from long run. When you are able running it, you can run 10 x 1000 no more in 2:42, but in 2:36, for example. SO, THE DIRECT INFLUENCE OF THE SPECIFIC SUPPORT ON THE SPECIFIC TRAINING IS VERY BIG.
Very nice.
8:20 is 26:30 pace / .954 or X 1.048
Thus the 1.2 is an arbitrary range, depending on distance and intensity.
Within 5% (1.05) is more specific than 20% (1.20) etc.
Renato Canova wrote:
An example : if I run a Marathon in 2:10 (3:05 per km pace), 18.5 is 100% of the speed every 100m, so 80% of the speed is 3:05 + 37.0 = 3:42.
Just if you were wondering, 3:42 per 1000 meters is 83.33% of speed.
Mike it is 20% slower by time, hahaha but hey only fools deal in facts & science! Hey but what is truth when you can chat with a European coach who whores Kenyans, puke. Canova you are not Lydiard, your are not even brilliant, bullshit mostly & drugs!
Please give me Hadd, Jk & Tinman anyday over these guys!
Jzs,
You are not helping anything with your personal attacks.
Maybe you could say what you like more about the other methods, or else just frequent the threads you like.
Really let's talk about training, and leave the personal attacks out of it.
I said what I like better(Squires, JK, tinman, Jtupper..) what did you say better? This guy is poison, the devil.
Jzs wrote:
I said what I like better(Squires, JK, tinman, Jtupper..) what did you say better? This guy is poison, the devil.
Ah, the refeshingly generous and constructive spirit of Letsrun.com trolls at work!
Mr. Jzs, just so you might make reasonably intelligent comments, you had best realize that a great deal (I would even go so far as to say a TREMENDOUS deal) of what is said by JK, jtupper, and tinman is markedly SIMILAR and in some cases IDENTICAL to what Renato and Antonio offer.
As for the potshot about Kenyans and drugs, I do heartily suggest that if you are going to slander someone you do not even know well enough to correctly evaluate the reams of training information offered free of charge on an Internet message board, you had better have ironclad proof.
So far, dear poster, you have not a shred.
Have a nice day.
Mr. Cabral,
Thank you for your many contributions to the rest of us.
I have two questions for you.
#1: You said something like it was not good to run AT (or special) training more than two days a week. This is what I do, as otherwise I get too tired and don't recover as well. However, why not just divide that training into 7 equal portions and do this training daily, in the 1/7 amounts each day?
The total training would be the same. Would this not be enough of a training effect at one time?
#2: My understanding of the Portuguese 1-2-3 program is that this means 1) race pace, 2) slower than race pace and 3) faster than race pace.
However, where is the "faster than race pace" for Carlos Lopes and Rui Silva?
This is what I am wondering.
For example, Carlos Lopes mostly ran at race pace at the fastest, i.e. 10k in 27:27 and 400m in 65.5 (10k pace), and Rui Silva 6x 500m at 1:10 which is his 1500m pace of 3:30.
Is the "faster than race pace" not necessary?
What I got out of all this great thread it that there is no single best way to train. Training must be fitted to the existing environmenal conditions, such as distance, talent, strengths, weaknesses, etc.
Kim:
Excellent points you make! Tinman
mplatt; mathematicien
You all mathematician experts – don´t you realise yet that 2:10 that´s not a 3:05 either ?
Instead of reading “speed” average you may read “pace” average and it all turns to be correct and accurate or don´t?
bump
Im also intrested in an answer here!
Jzs wrote:
I said what I like better(Squires, JK, tinman, Jtupper..) what did you say better? This guy is poison, the devil.
John Stiner, you are the one with the Poison, I feel sorry for any kids you coach.