webb 3:50.85

Maybe "better" wasn't the best word. I meant more meaningful or more important. Like breaking his HS PR and doing it on US soil.

He probably would have run a little faster today with different competition. Willis being 20 meters back could not have been as motivating as Tergat being on Webb's heels in the last 1/8th of the race.

Webb's 3:50.85 mile is equal to ... a 3:50.85 mile. Guys who can run 3:32 or 3:33 for the 1500 can usually run 3:49 - 3:50. But don't bother with conversions. Their bs. It's also bs trying to compare a such and such 800 to a such and such 1500 and so on. Take each distance/race for what it is.

I guess Webb IS indeed better than WIllis right now. If Webb had had any competition in the straight, or anyone to chase (like poor ol' Nick) he'd probably have run a bit faster.

Webb may run 3:50 in the mile, but can he eat 50.5 hotdogs in 12 minutes?

I submit NOT.

it is true wrote:

as motivating as Tergat being on Webb's heels in the last 1/8th of the race.

Hmm, that would be weird seeing Paul chase Alan.

Did I mix up my Kenyans?

Maybe Webb can inspire other US milers. Who knows maybe Webb will help get rid of "sit and kick" US tactical 1500 meter running. The sit and kickers in the US 1500 meter running can't run faster than 3:36.

More runners would have gone under 4:00 for the mile had the weather been cooler and the pace not been so fast early on.

Webb was 26 at the 200 and just under 56 at the 400m; 1:52.7 at 800m. If it had been 70 degrees, not 85, and the pace more even, I think Webb could have gone 3:48-49. Look for a medal from Allan at the Olympics. The more steady and strong the pace, the better Allan will fare at the Games.pace is steady and strong. Tinman

Thanks for the splits. What's wonderful is that Webb is willing to go out in 1:52. It may have been too fast, especially given the conditions, but that kind of boldness is de rigueur in a 1,500/miler who desires to be world-class.

Tinman wrote:

More runners would have gone under 4:00 for the mile had the weather been cooler and the pace not been so fast early on.

Webb was 26 at the 200 and just under 56 at the 400m; 1:52.7 at 800m. If it had been 70 degrees, not 85, and the pace more even, I think Webb could have gone 3:48-49. Look for a medal from Allan at the Olympics. The more steady and strong the pace, the better Allan will fare at the Games.pace is steady and strong. Tinman

Tinman,

With all due respect--you should know that Webb's name is spelled "Alan" not "Allan."

it is true wrote:

Did I mix up my Kenyans?

just busting your chops. I knew you meant Legat.

Tinman wrote:

More runners would have gone under 4:00 for the mile had the weather been cooler and the pace not been so fast early on.

Webb was 26 at the 200 and just under 56 at the 400m; 1:52.7 at 800m. If it had been 70 degrees, not 85, and the pace more even, I think Webb could have gone 3:48-49. Look for a medal from Allan at the Olympics. The more steady and strong the pace, the better Allan will fare at the Games.pace is steady and strong. Tinman

Definitely. All those folks who were talking about how great he was going to do--regardless of the conditions--just don't get it. I think he has a chance at the AR this year, but not in the middle of the afternoon, on an 85 degree day, against a week field. In Rome, though......

Great result! Fast kat...fastest mile in usa by usa kid...El G holds the all comers record of 3:49.92 tho, will Webb get that next year? Geh

bernie wrote:

just busting your chops. I knew you meant Legat.

no such runner as "legat" or "allan webb"

just busting your chops. I knew you meant Legat.

Right you are. My cousin's name is Allan, so naturally I am inclined to spell Webb's name the same.

Alan Webb reminds me a lot of my cousin who ran 35 minute 10ks as a junior high schooler before he bulked up playing football. Both Alan and Allan go after it and hammer away. Both are driven and not afraid to lay it on the line.

It seems to me that one things separating good athletes from great athletes is drive. Take away the will to win, to open up a can of whoop-a**, and you have an undistinguished person exercising instead of competing. For that very reason, I am generally not in favor of rabbits. I love watching the competition. I am, however, suprised at times when I notice how exciting a race can be when a runner like Mr. Webb goes without hesitation to the front ahead of his main rivals and makes everyone gasp in amazement at his pure ferocity. I imagine that Pre was like that to many people; a specatacle of drive, ferocity, determination, and willingness to cross the abyss: a place where you don't know if you will die or not, but you go onward anyway. Tinman

it is true wrote:

I guess it is easy to make mistakes about Bernard LAgat's name :D

yes it is. just ask the Washington Post. rather than pick one or the other they use both!

that's the washington running report, not the washington post

Tinman wrote:

More runners would have gone under 4:00 for the mile had the weather been cooler and the pace not been so fast early on.

Webb was 26 at the 200 and just under 56 at the 400m; 1:52.7 at 800m.

The pace, which was certainly ambitious, was exactly what Alan and Scott asked for last night. They even considered having Simon go out in 54 but thought better of it. Simon's 1:50.9 800m split, with Laban in tow, set Webb up to run from the front off a fast pace. He already has experience running fast (3:32) in a pack.

Looks like they want to be ready for any scenario.

I'd take mixing up a few letters to mistaking "runwashington.com" to the Washington Post.