Contact your Congressperson and lodge a complaint.
Contact your Congressperson and lodge a complaint.
NOT Nazi Israel wrote:
Contact your Congressperson and lodge a complaint.
i dont think anyone needs to do that. I doubt anyone will run into this issue.
If you do run into this issue, simply tell them that they are welcome to view the information that you post publicly online. Anything stored privately is no different than your banking information, emails, texts, etc. No different.
myspace forever! wrote:
They're in big trouble if their pool of job applicants is made up of 17-year old girls and stay-at-home moms.
Yes, the 897,000,000 people on facebook are all 17 year old girls and moms. Are you sure you're not thinking of Pinterest?
Seems like it would have to be a trick question. Who would want to hire someone that would give up secrets so easily? Corporate espionage would love to have malleable employees like that to utilize.
I know... wrote:
There is a good reason I don't have facebook. If your boss really wanted to get into your facebook, she/she would find a way to. Trust me. From what I've been told by people that use fb to "research" people, they have their ways. Insurance companies have used fb to prove that people lied about ailments, the law has used fb as evidence in court to convict people, and yes, people have been fired for what they posted on fb. It is not private and people put stupid things up on it.
This is a fallacy.
What you say is correct, but it is not related to this thread.
Of course companies can research your facebook postings to find out the kinds of things you say, discuss, like, etc. No one is even debating that. To my knowledge, no one is even saying that is wrong.
What we are discussing is demanding passwords that would provide the potential employer with access to private information, like pictures that have not been posted (many people use Facebook as a storage tool, like flickr/Kodak gallery/picasa) and personal email. I rarely use my gmail account anymore. I typically use the messaging function on facebook. That is not public. It is private, extremely private.
Facebook is more than a public wall. If you had a facebook account, you'd know this. I am not trying to be a jerk, but this is why there are so many problems with Social Media. For some reason, people who are clueless to the function of the media feel the need to talk about it.
This line in the article made me laugh out loud. Not only did one guy actually spend the time to write the following book, but some other guy helped him do it! If you need a twitter account to find a job, good luck! Unless you are seeking a job in the thumb wrestling field, whereupon such persistent tweeting may give you an advantage in pinning your competitors.
"E. Chandlee Bryan, a career coach and co-author of the book 'The Twitter Job Search Guide,' said job seekers should always be aware of what's on their social media sites and assume someone is going to look at it."
Email your Senator/Congressman to outlaw employers from asking for online passwords.
Asking for an applicant's FB password during the interview might be a good move. It allows you to weed out anyone who is a big enough pushover to simply hand over their password because an HR rep asked for it. Ask for the password, and then only hire the people who have the backbone to tell you to go to hell.
Good God, the naïveté of you Facebookers is stunning...
You do not own your Facebook account. Mark Zuckerberg owns your Facebook account. It will be public or private at his discretion to the extent that Mark wants it public or private. (Hint: the less private your account is, the more money Mark makes.).
Potential employers understand the difference between private medical or financial information and social media. This practice of asking potential employees, college athletes, or your hairstylist for Facebook access is far from illegal and will most likely become more common in the future. Young people need to understand this.
Facebook is already selling your information (private or public) to companies that aggregate your data to give you a 'social media score' that they will sell to employers similar to the way credit scores are sold. Employers are streamlining the cost/benefit evaluation process in hiring. Get used to it. This practice is not going away.
How you present yourself in the world of social media can reflect poorly on your character as well as the character of the company you work for (also public information).
Read Lori Andrews new book, 'I Know Who You Are and I Saw What You Did' for some interesting discussion on case law in this arena. I think this book should be required reading for every high school kid in the country.
What about people like myself who do not have a Facebook or any other social media account? Are we weeded out because we do not have a presence online?
Great question.
sc runner wrote:
What about people like myself who do not have a Facebook or any other social media account? Are we weeded out because we do not have a presence online?
You don't need Facebook to have an online presence. Lots of other platforms are collecting and posting your data on their sites, and they are much less juvenile than Facebook, and more responsible with your data.
To those that don't like this practice: be an responsible adult and don't post unsavory content on FB. Problem solved. In the real world, you have to appeal to people that have more power than you...like it or not. The same people that are complaining about this are probably the same folks whining that pot should be legal because it's killed fewer people than booze.
dadsfads wrote:
To those that don't like this practice: be an responsible adult and don't post unsavory content on FB. Problem solved. In the real world, you have to appeal to people that have more power than you...like it or not. The same people that are complaining about this are probably the same folks whining that pot should be legal because it's killed fewer people than booze.
They aren't asking to look at your page. They are asking for your password. As in, like, the thing that allows you to log in and change things about your account, post stuff, etc. Would you give out your email password to any bozo who asked for it?
PerWink wrote:
Good God, the naïveté of you Facebookers is stunning...
You do not own your Facebook account. Mark Zuckerberg owns your Facebook account. It will be public or private at his discretion to the extent that Mark wants it public or private. (Hint: the less private your account is, the more money Mark makes.).
Potential employers understand the difference between private medical or financial information and social media. This practice of asking potential employees, college athletes, or your hairstylist for Facebook access is far from illegal and will most likely become more common in the future. Young people need to understand this.
Facebook is already selling your information (private or public) to companies that aggregate your data to give you a 'social media score' that they will sell to employers similar to the way credit scores are sold. Employers are streamlining the cost/benefit evaluation process in hiring. Get used to it. This practice is not going away.
How you present yourself in the world of social media can reflect poorly on your character as well as the character of the company you work for (also public information).
Read Lori Andrews new book, 'I Know Who You Are and I Saw What You Did' for some interesting discussion on case law in this arena. I think this book should be required reading for every high school kid in the country.
Do you really believe what you wrote or are you just trolling? I hope the latter.
Listen, I agree that people need to be aware of what they post online. Believe me. Again, there is a difference to what you post publicly to a profile and what is password protected. Facebook is but one Social Media community where users can keep their credit card information stored for purchases. Access to this information is open if you have someone's password.
Zuckerberg owns your private personal information in the exact same way that google owns each one of your emails. There are tight security and privacy contracts with each account, like every single website on earth, including gmail and other email services. You, the user, take a risk that the service you choose to use will handle your information responsibly. This is no different than trusting a teller at the bank. You are always taking risks. If Zuckster breaches that contract, sue is sorry ass. Still, this is a straw man you have thrown out there, we are not talking about this. A company misusing your private data has NOTHING to do with a potential employer asking to peek under your skirt.
It is clear that you do not understand Social Media and are easily swayed by broad media strokes. Now run along, I think you need to restock some of the corned beef hash in your fallout shelter.
sc runner wrote:
What about people like myself who do not have a Facebook or any other social media account? Are we weeded out because we do not have a presence online?
It depends on the industry. I would not hire you, but that is simply because my company handles Social Media accounts for large corporations. Most of my employees are passionate about Social Media and extremely Facebook savvy. It would not make sense to hire someone without experience in this area.
dadsfads wrote:
To those that don't like this practice: be an responsible adult and don't post unsavory content on FB. Problem solved. In the real world, you have to appeal to people that have more power than you...like it or not. The same people that are complaining about this are probably the same folks whining that pot should be legal because it's killed fewer people than booze.
I suppose you don't mind giving out your bank card PIN or email account passwords, either? Hey, just be a responsible adult and it's not a problem! No such thing as privacy.
dadsfads wrote:
To those that don't like this practice: be an responsible adult and don't post unsavory content on FB. Problem solved. In the real world, you have to appeal to people that have more power than you...like it or not. The same people that are complaining about this are probably the same folks whining that pot should be legal because it's killed fewer people than booze.
Really? Is it that hard to grasp why this makes people mad? are you normally this averse to understanding an issue prior to spouting off about it?
No one disagrees with your post. This thread is discussing the requesting of a password to a personal account. Would you let a potential employer look through your personal email account during an interview? This is the same thing. They can have at anything that is public.
Please take 2 minutes to understand this small but important difference:
Facebook is more than a public Wall. Facebook has email, private IM-like messaging, storage capability complete with the ability to store pictures, videos, documents chronologically. All kinds of back-end, private capabilities that can be shared if needed, but kept private, much like Gmail or Google docs.
Again, would you give an HR person your Gmail password simply because Google is online, it's public damnit.
No, it is not PUBLIC, it is PRIVATE, hence the privacy settings and password PROTECTION.
dadsfads wrote:
To those that don't like this practice: be an responsible adult and don't post unsavory content on FB. Problem solved. In the real world, you have to appeal to people that have more power than you...like it or not. The same people that are complaining about this are probably the same folks whining that pot should be legal because it's killed fewer people than booze.
More precisely, be a responsible applicant. Realize the people pick up specific comments on social media. If you don't like the practice, put it on FB and write an unsavory (but true) review on glassdoor.com.
If you don't like varsity monitor, you can ask the school to delete the requirement or look elsewhere. If you're an applicant, you can ask if it is the policy of the company to spy on the private lives of employees, and if so, EXPOSE THEM.
Prospective applicants are not without means to retaliate.
Urine Idiout wrote:
There are tight security and privacy contracts with each account, like every single website on earth, including gmail and other email services. .
Hahahahahahaha...hahahahaha...cough...hahahahaha!
How many Facebook users successfully sued Zuckerberg for damages after the 2008 privacy breach?