Ritz Would Not Have Won NCAA Cross Country Champs On Monday

asdgfh wrote:

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:

Actually, if you were not stupid you'd recognize that my superior intellect is not deleteriously impacted by an erroneous prediction.

Yet you call people who disagree with your prediction morons.

No, I have referred to the people who perceive a 13:49 5k as a good sign Ritz will make the U.S. marathon team as morons, and they certainly are. Ritz was faster in high school.

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:

You aren't very bright, are you?

Nice zinger.

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:

The point is that Ritz is NOT going to be able to make the U.S. team for London in the marathon.

I believe that you thought you were making that point, but it took you until your fourth post to even mention the Olympic Trials. The gist of your first few posts is: "Ritz couldn't have won NCAAs, and G. Mutai is faster." As I said before, that "insight" is, at best, a banality. It's so obvious that it's not worth saying.

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:

IF you cannot win NCAA cross country this year, you are not in a good position to make the U.S. Olympic marathon team, especially if you haven't shown you run well in marathons relative to other distances.

This is what you probably meant to say in your first post. But you didn't. And you sounded stupid.

Just throwing out there that this summer when Hall was in training mode, he ran Peachtree and finished in 17th place, losing by more than a minute (29:15).

Considering he has quite often split 29s during the marathon, I could not call that a good race, yet he is still the clear favorite for the trials.

13:49 is way faster than Ritz will ever need to split in a Marathon, in fact spliting 15:30s will probably get him on the team. The fact Ritz is racing and has went sub 14 twice is a good sign.

" If you cannot win NCAA cross country this year, you are not in a good position to make the U.S. Olympic marathon team.."

The beauty of our sport is that we can only speculate what will happen as none of us can foretell the future. As well, you state 'if you cannot win NCAA cross country this year..." How would you know? Ritz didn't run NCAA CC this year as he's been professional for sometime now, were he still a student he just might have won. You don't know what the outcome would be, any more than myself or anyone else on here. Keep up the posts, though, I do so enjoy them.

alex f. wrote:

The beauty of our sport is that we can only speculate what will happen as none of us can foretell the future.

That's weird. Isn't that true of all sports, that nobody can foretell the future with any certainty? And true for basically all of life. Seems weird to identify this characteristic as being the beauty of running.

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:

asdgfh wrote:

Yet you call people who disagree with your prediction morons.

No, I have referred to the people who perceive a 13:49 5k as a good sign Ritz will make the U.S. marathon team as morons, and they certainly are. Ritz was faster in high school.

There's no one on this thread (or anywhere else I've seen) that think's that 13:49 is a sign that Ritz is going to make the team.

I certainly never commented here or anywhere that I thought Ritz running 13:49 was a good sign. I just disagreed that Ritz being unable to do something Mutai could do was a bad sign for Ritz making the team. And for that, you called me a moron.

Road and track times aren't interchangeable. I don't know how people still fail to understand this incredibly obvious fact.

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:Actually, if you were not stupid you'd recognize that my superior intellect is not deleteriously impacted by an erroneous prediction...but of course the prediction won't prove to be erroneous.

Your use of 'impact' as a verb automatically invalidates any claim to 'superior intellect,' let alone the ridiculously out of context use of 'deleteriously.' Stop reaching for verbal profundity and focus on not using nouns as verbs.

Rene the Cart wrote:

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:Actually, if you were not stupid you'd recognize that my superior intellect is not deleteriously impacted by an erroneous prediction...but of course the prediction won't prove to be erroneous.

Your use of 'impact' as a verb automatically invalidates any claim to 'superior intellect,' let alone the ridiculously out of context use of 'deleteriously.' Stop reaching for verbal profundity and focus on not using nouns as verbs.

You must really be stupid if you believe that the use of "impact" as a verb is a barometer of intelligence or lack thereof, and I offer my contrition if you had to go to your thesaurus to discover the meaning of "deleteriously," and it is too bad that you're much too obtuse to ascertain that I utilized the word in my usual impeccable manner...You've obviously had too much turkey to permit lucidity.

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:

You must really be stupid if you believe that the use of "impact" as a verb is a barometer of intelligence or lack thereof, and I offer my contrition if you had to go to your thesaurus to discover the meaning of "deleteriously," and it is too bad that you're much too obtuse to ascertain that I utilized the word in my usual impeccable manner...You've obviously had too much turkey to permit lucidity.

Nice words - deleteriously, ascertain, lucidity. 25 cents each.

Run-on sentences make you look very inteligent.

Never good to misspell/mistype "intelligent" in such a situation.

clamtackler wrote:

Run-on sentences make you look very inteligent.

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:

Sorry if this is difficult to understand for the morons.

You are very rude.

clamtackler wrote:

Run-on sentences make you look very inteligent.

Good thing I did not post any run-on sentences. In fact, I did not even post any non run-on sentences.

I guess that makes me very inteligent indeed.

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:

asdgfh wrote:

Yet you call people who disagree with your prediction morons.

No, I have referred to the people who perceive a 13:49 5k as a good sign Ritz will make the U.S. marathon team as morons, and they certainly are. Ritz was faster in high school.

If you know marathon training, Ritz's 5k road race results are pretty good for where I would expect him to be right now. Especially considering he is coming off of injury and I'm certain he did not do a full tapper for either of these efforts. I would say he is about right or pretty close to where he needs to be.

Btw, you can run a fast 5k off of marathon training, but not in the build up phase...perhaps 2 weeks before the race or 2 weeks after. And yes, Lalang would probably have beaten Ritz at the NCAA XC Champ, but I am not sure the other guys could have.

I'm still waiting for the idiot OP to tell us who is making the team. Ok, so let's say Ryan Hall is a given. Who are the other 2? Arcieniga and Gotcher? Please! Nobody beat Ritz other than Hall at the trials. If Ritz can stay healthy (that's a big if), who knows what he might do come 2012 Olympics. The bottom line is that other than Hall, Ritz and Meb, nobody has proven that they can run close to world class times. Quite frankly, if you training for a marathon...who gives and eff about a 5K road race time.

Then why run the effin 5k road race?

So that he could race, having not raced in a year (prior to NY and this one), which does require practice, and so he could run a distance for which he would not have to taper at all (he ran 115 the weeks of both races), yet still run hard.

Moscone's wrote:

Then why run the effin 5k road race?

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:

Rene the Cart wrote:

Your use of 'impact' as a verb automatically invalidates any claim to 'superior intellect,' let alone the ridiculously out of context use of 'deleteriously.' Stop reaching for verbal profundity and focus on not using nouns as verbs.

You must really be stupid if you believe that the use of "impact" as a verb is a barometer of intelligence or lack thereof, and I offer my contrition if you had to go to your thesaurus to discover the meaning of "deleteriously," and it is too bad that you're much too obtuse to ascertain that I utilized the word in my usual impeccable manner...You've obviously had too much turkey to permit lucidity.

Owning a dictionary doesn´t automatically make you intelligent.