If I was your dad, I would be quite pissed off that I'd spent a gazillion dollars for you to go to Silver Spoon University, only to emerge with writing skills like this.
If I was your dad, I would be quite pissed off that I'd spent a gazillion dollars for you to go to Silver Spoon University, only to emerge with writing skills like this.
math 185 wrote:
Ivy League schools annually graduate maybe 1% of the physics majors that state schools do (I made up that stat),
WTF are you a professor of?
A professor of a discipline that knows how to collect data instead of making up shit
math 185 wrote:
This was the best argument you could muster to support your position that going to an Ivy League doesn't matter?!
I should add the the OP essentially asked a question of added value. What added value does an ivy league education provide above say, a solid state school (which are abundant). I said in an earlier post that of course you will have high success rates among ivy grads but my argument is that this is because of who they are, not because of any added value from their ivy education. That is a difficult hypothesis to test but it could be done. Take HS GPA and SAT and then quantify some measure of success. Then regress success on the scores and see if ivy grads have positive residuals. Of course I could just make shit up like you did and call it an argument.
middle professor wrote:
What added value does an ivy league education provide above say, a solid state school (which are abundant). I said in an earlier post that of course you will have high success rates among ivy grads but my argument is that this is because of who they are, not because of any added value from their ivy education. That is a difficult hypothesis to test but it could be done.
Done - see
http://tinyurl.com/ivyedudkand all the citations to this for a start. Any answer to the thread should have started with this rather than anecdotal stories. Remember, the plural of anecdote is not data.
middle professor wrote:
... That is a difficult hypothesis to test but it could be done. Take HS GPA and SAT and then quantify some measure of success. Then regress success on the scores and see if ivy grads have positive residuals.
You play with your data, which you don't even seem to understand. (No response to the Nobel Prize follow up, I notice.)
You know what I'm doing this afternoon? Searching the Yale alumni directory for grads who work in an industry where I need connections. And there will be dozens. And some will be CEOs. And many will help.
And yes, I paid for my Yale degree myself.
math 185 wrote:
You play with your data, which you don't even seem to understand. (No response to the Nobel Prize follow up, I notice.)
You know what I'm doing this afternoon? Searching the Yale alumni directory for grads who work in an industry where I need connections. And there will be dozens. And some will be CEOs. And many will help.
And yes, I paid for my Yale degree myself.
Good luck. Hopefully they won't be following this thread, where you've shown a lack of ability to follow an argument. You made up a number to argue that there is a disproportional number of ivy league nobel winners. In my followups, I argued that that is not the measure of ivy league value but you need a measure of added value. The link that I gave does this. That was my response to your response to my nobel argument but apparently you didn't get this.
As to the OP, here is a link showing the value of connections but it doesn't address the original question, does an ivy league education add value above that of a good state school. For this, the research would need to address if Ivy connections are more valuable than state connections (if they were, we would see this effect in the Dale Krueger paper).
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014292101002215Stopped reading at \"I would strongly disagree. . .\" LOL
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