Kindle Fire

I have a Kindle DX. First of all, does it really matter that much if a book takes 5 minutes or 30 seconds? Secondly, it takes about 30 seconds to a minute to download a book.

kindledude wrote:

Does anyone on here have a Kindle? If so, how long does it take to download a book? And for movies on the Fire, would you have to download it or just stream it?

Mergas Elbows wrote:

I've been happy with my Nook Color since last xmas.

The nook color has been flying of the shelves because it's subsidized (compare business model of inkjet printers). Everyone I know who has one rooted it. I doubt that B&N makes any money with it (yet).

Fire is also subsidized (no way Amazon can have it produced for 199) but with Amazons ecosystem I believe it will proved successful, both quantity and $$$.

I just wish it came with a bigger hard drive. 8 gigs will fill up fast. Get 10 movies on that thing and you'll be pretty much full.

i have no idea what people are talking about on this thread

The link to this thing is in the 2nd post if you don't know what we are talking about.

OKDOHKAY wrote:

Ono, is it in your kitchen? Put it out! Stop, drop, and roll,(oxford comma) then reach for the watering can!

Who gives a @#$% about and Oxford Comma?

Lorenzo the Magnificent wrote:

Is it going to be a winner?

It has been heralded as the first real challenge to the Apple iPad's stranglehold on the tablet computer market. But only hours after its launch and more than two months before it appears in shops, privacy concerns have surfaced about the Kindle Fire.

Fears expressed about Amazon's new tablet range will leave the world's largest online retailer with a "headache", business analysts said yesterday.

They centre on the new internet browser, designed especially for the Kindle Fire, which was launched on Wednesday.

Writing on the Naked Security blog, Senior Security Advisor at Sophos Chester Wisniewski, said that the new browser, Silk, relies on Amazon's Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2) network to bear the majority of the burden of retrieving web pages and pre-render pictures to save battery life and increase the speed of mobile browsing.

He wrote that, to make the system work, "all web connections from your tablet will connect directly to Amazon, rather than the destination web page...

All of your web surfing habits will transit Amazon's cloud.

If you think that Google AdWords and Facebook are watching you, this service is guaranteed to have a record of everything you do on the web".

In addition, in its Silk terms and conditions, Amazon states that URLs, IP addresses and MAC addresses will be logged and that "we generally do not keep this information for longer than 30 days".

It adds that the browser can be run in "off-cloud" mode, which avoids information passing through Amazon's servers, but will cause the Kindle to run more slowly and use up battery life.

"Amazon will need to be transparent about what data they are going to hold on people and for how long. It is about making sure consumers know what Amazon owns, what it uses and what it knows about you.

As long as they do that promptly, Amazon will get through this," said Carolina Milanesi, a technology retail expert from the market analyst firm Gartner.

Eden Zoller, a marketing expert at Ovum, said: "It goes way beyond being an iPad killer.

The Fire tablet is a showcase for Amazon's increasing portfolio of digital services and of course its established favourites like online shopping.

A lot is riding on the Fire and Amazon will be very careful to ensure security and privacy do not become an issue for consumers."

However, while the concerns are likely to cause an "unwelcome distraction", Ms Milanesi said she thought that consumers would not be scared away altogether. "Amazon will not like the negative press but let's remember, the products are not even on the shelves yet; they have plenty of time to fix any problems which might exist. "

Amazon did not respond to requests for comment.

Kindler wrote:

I have a Kindle and the thing I like about it mostly is the non-glossy, non-backlit screen. It reads much like paper, and in that way it was more like an alternative to a book. I always though it would be nice to have that in color and with a touch screen. But the Nook Color and Kindle Fire have both adopted the same old color LCD screen again. This is a step away from the reader and towards being yet another do-everything personal device which we have enough of IMHO.

Amazon said they will add e-ink in color when the technology gets good enough. Right now, it's kind of crappy. The Kindle Fire isn't meant to replace e-ink -- it's a different option altogether.

My $99 Touchpad is the greatest. Does a lot more than the Fire can do too.

Doubts already, this link speaks to your concerns to some extent.

http://volokh.com/2011/10/01/will-jeff-bezos-bring-feudal-security-to-the-net/

ryan foreman wrote:

I have a Kindle DX. First of all, does it really matter that much if a book takes 5 minutes or 30 seconds? Secondly, it takes about 30 seconds to a minute to download a book.

kindledude wrote:

Does anyone on here have a Kindle? If so, how long does it take to download a book? And for movies on the Fire, would you have to download it or just stream it?

Not often except when I get to the end of the book and the plane door is about to close (it has happened once). Then every second counts.

Anyone have one of these yet and want to tell us about it?

Maybe.

It's an Amazon product first and a tablet computer second. It seems to me to be situated half-way between a color ereader and a tablet PC which either means that it's everything that everyone wanted or that it can't figure out what it wants to be and will die a flaming death.

Their $79 kindle? That's the sort of price point where you buy one just because you think you might try this electronic book thingy that you've heard so much about. Total win.

Doubts already wrote: All of your web surfing habits will transit Amazon's cloud.

If you think that Google AdWords and Facebook are watching you, this service is guaranteed to have a record of everything you do on the web".

The Kindle Silk browser sounds like Flash. Something that processes what you want to see and delivers it to you. Flash does it on your computer, which slows things way down. Silk does it remotely, which likely means slower page renderings.

You better be careful what and where you browse if you buy one of these. Adult webpages. Secure webpage. On-line payment pages.

It isn't clear whether you can root this to run the device off-cloud to keep your information secure.

ryan foreman wrote:

Okay, sure. And Motley Crue sold millions of records. So they must have been an absolutely great rock and roll band.

Poster said "winner", not great.

Considering the poonage and lifestyles that those four douchebags had (and still have), I don't think you're in any position to say they were "losers".

Can the kindle be used while running? Kind of like this: http://www.lolroflmao.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/m8Aiw.jpg

I have the new basic Kindle without Touch screen. It takes less than a minute for huge books and seconds for most. It's smoking fast.

I posted this not using my regular LR nickname and the first time I used this one, the only time that I posted on this thread.

Today I peeked into amazon.com and guess what?

The first page that I went to was full of kindle ads, including a full page letter trying to tell me about kindle.

I have no interest and don't care what it is.

However it is interesting how invasive the internet has become.

Nothing is personal any more.

At least, not for us the slaves.

Our only job is to keep paying the taxes and to shut up about what really matters.

Kindle doesn't matter.