Hall third at VA Beach in 1:03:02

jjjjjjjj wrote:

maybe he just runs MP in these half marathons. That's about the only way to explain him apparently ridiculously underperforming in halves before running the same pace or close to it (or better as at Boston) for his target marathon. Chicago's coming up in about five weeks, right? I hope the weather's good and Hall can break 2:06, but that seems to be his goal pace.

HOW MANY TIMES HAS HALL RUN A HALF A FEW WEEKS BEFORE A FULL, AND THE HALF TIME IS NEVER REALLY STELLAR (AND GEE WHY IS THAT?), AND THE HATERS ALL GANG UP, AND THEN HE TOOLS YOU ALL ON THE FULL?

(CAPS INTENTIONAL)

Let's not forget that after running what all said was a slow time he then ran the greatest American marathon effort EVER!

Lets also not forget that he got another RnR finisher medal. He got one in New Orleans last year too. You can get a nice plaque to hang them on the wall. And I think theres a discount if you enter more than one RnR race.

areusure? wrote:

Let's not forget that after running what all said was a slow time he then ran the greatest American marathon effort EVER!

... with God blowing wind at his back :-)

perch wrote:

areusure? wrote:

Let's not forget that after running what all said was a slow time he then ran the greatest American marathon effort EVER!

... with God blowing wind at his back :-)

Exactly!

long sox wrote:

Slower than marathon pace for a 2:04 guy. Should be just a little more effort than an easy run for him.

I don't understand the purpose of that race. It's too fast for an easy run yet slower than M-pace for a guy like Hall. Makes no sense.

Manwithknowledge wrote:

I don't understand the purpose of that race. It's too fast for an easy run yet slower than M-pace for a guy like Hall. Makes no sense.

Of course it makes no sense to you if you're goofy enough to take 2:04:58 as his legal-course marathon pace. And even if he could run sub-2:05 on a legit course right now, how in the hell do you figure that 1:03:02 is worthless whereas 1:02-mid would (I assume) be stellar since it's right on MP? Are you that stupid to think that at 2-3 seconds per mile slower than MP, all benefits are lost? Jesus Christ. Someone ban this person NOW!

Obviously this was just a workout to him. It seems a little lame that he takes an appearance fee for a glorified workout.

As Boston is a downhill course and doesn't count, hall still needed an OT qualifier and he got that one today. Well done!

Trialsq wrote:

As Boston is a downhill course and doesn't count, hall still needed an OT qualifier and he got that one today. Well done!

Hall didn't need an OT qualifier. He has TEN races that qualified him.

turkey leg wrote:

A 14 YO girl running half marathons and has her own webpage. Great. Sounds like a young Deano.

That girl is faster than "Deano"

Coulda Been A Race Directa wrote:

Obviously this was just a workout to him. It seems a little lame that he takes an appearance fee for a glorified workout.

INDEED.

sayer of indeed wrote:

Coulda Been A Race Directa wrote:

Obviously this was just a workout to him. It seems a little lame that he takes an appearance fee for a glorified workout.

INDEED.

Why is that lame?

LRs can be a miserable lot. If Hall were to win Chicago and run a world best time they'd still tear him down. There's really no winning with this crowd.

You win, you're on drugs, nobody was there, it's rigged and set up.... You lose, you suck, you dont have heart, etc..

Foosball wrote:

Coulda Been A Race Directa wrote:

Obviously this was just a workout to him. It seems a little lame that he takes an appearance fee for a glorified workout.

Why is that lame?

I thought he was running a race? If he had no intention of racing, why was he out there? He's picking up a check to give a half assed effort.

If the guy races and loses, I can't criticizing him for putting it out there. But after the race he said he thought he could've run that pace for a marathon and whenever he went faster it became uncomfortable. If he doesn't like discomfort, he picked the wrong sport.

Maybe I'm just too used to watching Diamond League races, where people try to stay in the race and win at the end.

Coulda Been A Race Directa wrote:

Foosball wrote:

Why is that lame?

I thought he was running a race? If he had no intention of racing, why was he out there? He's picking up a check to give a half assed effort.

If the guy races and loses, I can't criticizing him for putting it out there. But after the race he said he thought he could've run that pace for a marathon and whenever he went faster it became uncomfortable. If he doesn't like discomfort, he picked the wrong sport.

Maybe I'm just too used to watching Diamond League races, where people try to stay in the race and win at the end.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I just see it a little differently. I don't think his picking up a check is related to his effort in the slightest. If he got an appearance fee, then that money simply comes from showing up and being Ryan Hall. In the small world of running he is a star and that is worth something financially. I don't fault him for taking advantage of that regardless of whether he decides to run a workout or set a PR.

i'd wet myself if i ran a 1:03. maybe even do a simpson dance. so whoever runs a 1:03 is neat to me.

Patrick Makau ran 1:03:55 in March before running 2:05:45 in London in April

Don't worry about hall